Has anyone experienced hand pain with these grips on their downhill bike? How do you set up the flange orientation in terms of roll? They seem to get good reviews from the magazines, but this is the first grip I've ever purchased that does not play nice and causes some pretty serious cramping. I'll admit my crap avid brakes aren't helping in the hand fatigue department, but the previous specialized grips I had were much better. I have fairly large mitts and it seems as if these ODI grips are not long enough between the inner and outer flange. Curious to hear what others think? Would also be interested in changing to a larger diameter grip if anyone has recommendations.