Opinions on Sun Singletrack Rims

Mattoid · Apr 1, 2005

Ive been using a 24" welded version on my hardtail. That thing has handled some crazy abuse. Im sure it would work out for ya.

bizutch · Apr 1, 2005

The Single track is more suited to 4x or slalom than DH. If were you race isn't too rocky, then they are an excellent choice. I can put my Michelin's on by hand with them. If you're going lightweight and want strength I would honestly get the Rhyno Lites as they are better at taking rock beatings. The Singletrack doesn't like to be hit with rocks. I personally destroy them on the rear of my bike, but had hte same Singletrack on the front for 2 full seasons with no problems.

But with me the same thing could be said of my Rhyno Lites, the difference being that the rear seemed to hold up better to a real beating. I'm 185lbs and destroy rims regularly. I crushed a D321 in 1 day last season.

This year I'm going with the MTX rims. Oddly enough, if you look closely on Sun's website, the rims are about 50 grams heavier than a singletrack...BUT....when built up the complete wheelset weighs almost the exact same. I assume since you use shorter spokes on the MTX wheelset?

Matt D · Apr 1, 2005

I think there are quite a few guys who use them as their race wheels. I've got a set (though not used that much) for my DH bike and they work just fine. They're also cheap and quick to get.

DÃR · Apr 1, 2005

I've seen more trashed Singletracks than any other rim. If I were doing it I'd go with 721s, those seem to last forever.

mobius · Apr 1, 2005

721s for sure. I ran singletracks as my first DH rim on a AC 2 seasons ago and they tacod quick and i wasnt doing anything to big. I run them on my trail bike and flat spotted the rear somehow but yeah if its rocky i wouldnt run them id run 721s or 729s

Froggy · Apr 1, 2005

It's all about the build. I ran 36h Singletracks all last season and I weigh 225llbs. Ran almost the entire Mt Snow pro/ex course with a front flat. Result 1 flat spot but still true. Again it's all about the build. What am I running in 05...you guessed it Singletracks.

CreeP · Apr 2, 2005

they are quite light.
they are even cheap.
not like the Arrow FRX.
costs nearly three times as much, locally anyway.
but weighs the same.

pattymcphatty · Apr 2, 2005

There is a thread on pinkbike that I found very useful when I was choosing the wheelset for my latest build. It was rim weights (26 and 24) and even tire weights.

here it is: http://vpfree.pinkbike.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=73825

pat

bradical · Apr 2, 2005

I've had the same pair on my bighit since early 03. Only one flatspot, and that's my fault. Build it right and they'll last.

E.C. · Apr 2, 2005

I have also seen many trashed singletracks, Like an earlier post said they are suited better to 4x , I run mag 30's on my race bike , yeah they are a little heavy but nearly indestructable, If you must have lighter weight get the rhino light's I have the SUV wheelset ( built with rhino light's) on my trail/freeride bike, I've been pounding the hell out of them for 2 years and they are still kicking.

me89 · Apr 3, 2005

brad can vouch for me on this one. i put a huge flatspot on my rear singletrack the first pisgah ride i did. i think i had like 3 rides on the rims when i did this. well needless to say i dont like single tracks any more so im going with a set of 721's. they had good reviews from everybody hear and there supposed to be indestructible. ohh and the bike setup is an 03 sgs team dh, rider weight 150 lbs and im running 25 psi in front in rear. so from a single track owner id say spend the extra money and get the 721's. good luck man.

BMXman · Apr 3, 2005

Single tracks have held up great for me....I go through about 4 rims per year...not bad at all considering the price...D

Fonzie18 · Apr 3, 2005

I would agree with BIZ that the singletrack is more suited for DS/4x use. I tried a set on my DHr because I wanted to cut down on the heft..they flat spotted and dinged like no other..I quicky replacced them with MTXs and have not had a problem since. The weight is worth the strength, IMO

smedford · Apr 3, 2005

me 89, what the hell kind of advice is that? You had bad luck with one rim, you are going to try another, so you give a hearty thumbs up to the one you have yet to use?

Thats like saying, I had a bad hamburger it was awfull, I am going to get a salad next time, I have never had one but everyone says they kick ass.

merrrrjig · Apr 3, 2005

just dont get them built by jensonusa.com http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=74402

ioscope · Apr 3, 2005

Ringle is great
dunno about sun though

lovebunny · Apr 3, 2005

merrrrjig said:
just dont get them built by jensonusa.com http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=74402

it wasnt them. its the fact that it was on an orange m3. studies have shown that your 23.4585% more likely to nosecase and screw up your wheel when you ride an orange m3 with blue dorado. :think:

dhkid · Apr 3, 2005

whats wrong with the ex 823's? their the best choice.

CreeP · Apr 3, 2005

do you really think so? What does it take to find out whether the sidewalls are strong or not?

me89 · Apr 3, 2005

yeh the 823 i guess would be your best but some people dont like to buy a tubless rim unless there running tubless. and there are actually people (me) who dont want to run tubless so 721 i guess, if you didnt want to run tubless, would be your best bet.

ohh and smeddford. how do you know ive not had any experiance with a set of 721's. i mean for all you know i could have them on my other bikes (i dont though). or i could have had good experiance with another mavic product on another one of my bikes (that explains the want to go to mavic).and just maybee they have lasted me through 2 seasons of all out hell. just maybee. and yes i went on other people opinions just like adam is doing and im sure that you have done before. also these opinions are very reliable sources not only on ridemonkey but friends who have had experiance with the rim and other mavic products (bike shop employees and owners). so dude im not trying to sound hostile or anything, cause ive done this numerous times, but man plz get the facts straight first. and no its not like switching from hamburger to salad, i hate anything green unless its beer mmmmmmmmm.

Jayridesacove · Apr 4, 2005

Froggy said:
It's all about the build. . .

Exactly.

I still use a sun mammoth on a hayes disc(built by dt/hugi) rear hub that was built by Larry from The Bike Shop in Kailua, HI. He built that wheel for me in 2001.

The rim has outlasted the hub, which has had warranty work for a broken retaining spring ring and broken engagement pawls.

neversummersnow · Apr 4, 2005

I am 200+ lbs and i try really hard to keep up with fast guys. I rode them on a bike with suspension that worked pretty crappy(ly) and only went through 1 singletrack on the back of my bike a year. They are good rims IF BUILT/TENSIONED RIGHT!!!

They are cheap, so if you mess up in the build, no big deal. The wheel is only as strong as the build!!!

downhill mike · Apr 4, 2005

my singletracks didn't last long on my big hit.

the doubletracks are holding up nicely.

teamkranzelbike · Apr 4, 2005

Froggy said:
It's all about the build. I ran 36h Singletracks all last season and I weigh 225llbs. Ran almost the entire Mt Snow pro/ex course with a front flat. Result 1 flat spot but still true. Again it's all about the build. What am I running in 05...you guessed it Singletracks.

Exactly, its all about the build. a good built wheel with preventive maintainence(ocaisionally checking spoke tention) and correct tire pressures will last. I have been running 32 hole single tracks on a hard tail with dbl butt 14/15s for three years of trail, downhill, and mild street. they have only been trued twice and are still in near perfect condition. oh, and I weigh 250 pounds!!!

BMXman · Apr 4, 2005

neversummersnow said:
I am 200+ lbs and i try really hard to keep up with fast guys. I rode them on a bike with suspension that worked pretty crappy(ly) and only went through 1 singletrack on the back of my bike a year. They are good rims IF BUILT/TENSIONED RIGHT!!!

They are cheap, so if you mess up in the build, no big deal. The wheel is only as strong as the build!!!

exactly it's all in the build....D

me89 · Apr 4, 2005

one more time for those who didnt catch it the first time...

its all about the build. (and having a strong rim helps a little too) lol.

dexterq20 · Apr 4, 2005

DßR said:
I've seen more trashed Singletracks than any other rim.

I killed 3 in 14 months. I'm now a loyal Mavic customer.

bizutch · Apr 4, 2005

dexterq20 said:
I killed 3 in 14 months. I'm now a loyal Mavic customer.

ahh, I killed a d321 in 1 run. flat spot the size of a golf ball...I don't think the name on the sticker or the tension of the spokes keeps that from happening.

ChrisRobin · Jan 11, 2006

Instead of posting a new thread about this, I figured I'd continue something I found here from a while ago.

Cambria is having a crazy sale on certain rims including the welded Rhyno Lite XL and the welded Singletrack. They're both the same price and both pretty much the same weight.

Bizutch was saying Rhyno Lites are the way to go for rocks (I'm a hack by the way) and is that because of it's square profile versus the Singletrack's curved profile?? Which ever rim I get will be built by the same shop.

edit. BTW, I just noticed you can get FOUR Maxxis Mobster 2.5/2.7 40a tires for $80.

Polandspring88 · Jan 11, 2006

ChrisRobin said:
Instead of posting a new thread about this, I figured I'd continue something I found here from a while ago.

Cambria is having a crazy sale on certain rims including the welded Rhyno Lite XL and the welded Singletrack. They're both the same price and both pretty much the same weight.

Bizutch was saying Rhyno Lites are the way to go for rocks (I'm a hack by the way) and is that because of it's square profile versus the Singletrack's curved profile?? Which ever rim I get will be built by the same shop.

edit. BTW, I just noticed you can get FOUR Maxxis Mobster 2.5/2.7 40a tires for $80.

For one universalcycles.com 's price on the singletracks are 5 dollars cheaper, so if you have your heart set on those I would get them there. Second, universal also has Mavic D521s for 35 bucks a hoop, which makes their price and weight comparable to the rims you are looking at. I would spring for those if you can since I haven't had very good luck with my Singletracks. A few months of trail riding and they are already sporting two flat spots.

ChrisRobin · Jan 11, 2006

Yeah, good find. Their atomlab stems are cheap too. Although for a $100usd order, they'd charge me $60 to ship to Canada.

Super-man · Jan 11, 2006

I ran Single Tracks front and back and I've never had any problem. They come stock with my Big Hit and I do a lot of DH with them. I have a lot of people tell me I'm a very light rider (despite my weight of 180lbs) so I'm sure that has a little to do with it.
I love them and I would consider buying them for my next bike

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