Rob Warner would replyNigel Paige would say: LOOK AT THE PRICE! WHOAT THE HELL?!
seing it cost 500$ to make.
this I can beleive.
This years World Champs was won on a bike the equivalent of a Toyota. Cheap, reliable, excellent part spec, cheap to fix/maintain and available everywhere.
Its a perfect comparison. Shiny & pretty on the outside, underwhelming and underperforming underneath.
Are mormons not crazy because they are many?I can name a view that cost more than the 9.9 frame,here in my country the session retails for 4500 euros,which is no more than 300 more than the old session 10 frame.
25th ani yeti 303 was near 6000 euro
First gen 303DH was arround 5000 euro
Foes 2:1 mono was 5000 euro
Nicolai Ion G-boxx 7000 euro
so that isn't soo crazy compaired to those frames and they are not made from carbon
You have obviously never been around any real business if you think that total cost of bringing the product to a customer = build cost.p-spec said:
a ferrari is underwhelming and under performing?
or at least, that's what trek is attempting.
True, but... Ferrari wins races. Trek wins races.
nailed it. Plus, we'll probably see a session 9.8 next year for 7K, with a boxxer team on it, and suddenly its going to look reasonable
And the engineering, marketing, team sponsorships etc were free? I know the FEA on a single fork from one manufacturer cost $35 000 on the lowers ALONE. so, ya...
Or at least a non custom Fox fork.nailed it. Plus, we'll probably see a session 9.8 next year for 7K, with a boxxer team on it, and suddenly its going to look reasonable
As you probably know more of whats going on here then I, question: does gwin ride with one of them? does gee? blenky? spagnolo? any fox sponsored athlete? Or are they running traditional springs? I was under the impression that fox was a strong believer that air springs were no substitute for coil for DH riding, and it seems counter intuitive to do both for their top end DH fork. I get that trek had it commissioned, but why do it to an already exclusive frame (and exclusive frame price) and further jack the price up more? I mean, people are actually outraged that somebody would charge that much. Know any of the inner workings here?
When comparing money spent to enjoyment received, yes. There are far cheaper cars available that provide just as much fun for the driver.
Looking at your calculations I doubt it. Even the mafia has more costs
do you actually read what people are writing around here? he told you the price already (4500) in the sentence you quoted him with...
this. and don't forget the $100k+ cnc machine needed to make the molds, time and raw material to make the molds (easily another $10k+), and the other tens of thousands of dollars for ancillary processing equipment (vacuums, drills, lathes, etc)
their hybrid fork isnt a air spring. the air is just the preload (like some of Marz's forks) and i believe only the TWR guys/girl were on it
silly kids
Not to mention dealer and shop margins. I'm allways suprised when people get angry upon hearing the prices a big dealer or a shop gets. Get a direct order bike if that is a problem. Just don't complain your lahar isn't there if something happens
i dont think so
fixed
Only the swingarm is still in aluminium, the rocker link and the seatstays are made in carbon.
isnt a seatstay part of a swingarm? do you mean the chainstay? and the main EVO link isnt magnesium anymore?
Sorry, I quoted pinkbike on this.I meant the chainstays. The Evo link isn't magnesium anymore and the seatstay is also now carbon. You can see it on this pic:
Fixed again.
Here's another of the rear end and one of the slick cable routing.
Caterham.
It's not the best comparison of something fun but cheaper than a ferrari since it is a completely different car. Unless you are speaking about FXX or that insane 599GTO. I'd rather say Corvette, GTR and cars like that.
