Also bear in mind that customs may hold up the package for a bit of time, so be sure the buyer knows that he might not have it in his lap in a week.
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PSP still hasn't answered my original question. How did he sell the bike? How did the buyer find out about the bike?...and to all you who think Paypal offers you some type of protection....they don't! If PSP doesn't already have a Paypal account why would he set up one? Just to lose more money on the sale. There is something missing from this story which is why I predicted it would go bad...D
I am a lazy ebay seller but i have sold a lot of stuff to Europe, Canada and to Australia. I have shipped to the orient but mostly to Americans living abroad. If you follow the rules of Paypal and sell to folks with confirmed Paypal accounts its all good..
Just make sure that you transfer the money out of paypal to your bank account before you ship. It would be smarter to know it actually hit your bank account and can be used.
If you shipped, the buyer can retract his payment and it will basically freeze up your account and it will be a huge mess. Just tell the seller you have to do it that way so you will have the cash to pay for shipping, it may take longer, but then you actually do have the cash in hand before you ship.
If you shipped, the buyer can retract his payment and it will basically freeze up your account and it will be a huge mess. Just tell the seller you have to do it that way so you will have the cash to pay for shipping, it may take longer, but then you actually do have the cash in hand before you ship.
I'm not saying that people abroad can't be trusted, I have sold to people all over and not had a problem, that said I have also had scam artists from all over try and scam me, and as we all know PSP isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
the only place i posted it for sale was here on ridemonkey. i plan on transferring the money from my paypal to my bank account before the bike gets mailed.
I get what your saying, but instead of coming off really defensive, maybe you should read mine again as well, People Use western union As part of ther scma, guess I need3ed to explain it in a bit more detail, You receive a money order/cashiers check, which is forged, From a random bank, and you are asked to Send the remainder Via Western Union. I never said Western Union was a bank.
The reason You are asked to use western Union is due to the sender having absolutly zero recourse on getting there money back. Its also harder for investigating parties to find the scammers. If your Paid Via western Union, its as good as cash. But again I was not saying you were paid by western Union, that you were asked to send remainder Via western Union, Guess I should have made that point clearer in the first place.
Now with a better clarity on what I was saying, Any retard who falls for this deserves losing there money and there product.
ok well that makes things a little better.... have you figured out the shipping costs and paypal fees?...D
Just make sure you ship to a confirmed address WITH TRACKING NUMBER. Otherwise, once they get the bike, they can claim they never got it and PayPal will take the funds back unless you can prove you shipped it to the correct address with proof.
I had a buyer do that because he managed to damage the frame 2 weeks after he got it and was pissed. He told PayPal he never got it (he sent me an email telling me he got it). PayPal gave me 2 weeks to prove the bike was sent and because I used a tracking number and the verified address, I was covered.
I've been happy with PayPal ever since.
only problem with that is Paypal will not confirm a German address....and to me that's a HUGE hurdle....D
Has great english?? hmmmm maybe speaks great english?? So do plenty of terrorists, you're going to trust someone because of the literary skills? Trustworthy person you are.... ha
Thats very true, One of the reasons I dislike Shipping overseas, when I do ship overseas, I dont give My buyer a choice, they are buying insurance, and I also buy Delivery Confirmation. Whatever I need to Cover myself.
Let me guess, all brown people are terrorists too?
WTF did terrorists have to do with this? Culture of fear much?
hmm.. way to misinterpret where i was going with that one. Nothing to do with terrorism, or "brown people" as you may say. More of a notion of just because someone has a education that grants them perfect english skills doesn't necesarilly mean they are "trustworthy".
hey,
i´m the guy pinkshirt is talking about. Trust me, im no scammer. Had the same problem at pinkbike. Want to buy a v10 frame from a guy in England. Send him few mails, he replied but then i found in ridemonkey a buy&sell announcement with the same pictures. Contacted the guy from rm and asked him if he put his bike in pinkbike. Sure he didn´t and so i was a little bit of angry and informed pb. I´m selling my old frame too and hope that there is no scammer. I can only say that i now have the money and will pay.I also think about if pinkshirt will send me the frame.
Greetz Basti
i´m the guy pinkshirt is talking about. Trust me, im no scammer. Had the same problem at pinkbike. Want to buy a v10 frame from a guy in England. Send him few mails, he replied but then i found in ridemonkey a buy&sell announcement with the same pictures. Contacted the guy from rm and asked him if he put his bike in pinkbike. Sure he didn´t and so i was a little bit of angry and informed pb. I´m selling my old frame too and hope that there is no scammer. I can only say that i now have the money and will pay.I also think about if pinkshirt will send me the frame.
Greetz Basti
you asked why i want to buy the frame - it's simple - someone said it before, just because the frames are much more expensive here in europe. and we are not all terrorists!!!! ;-)
Fixed.As we see regularly, most Americans do not speak anything even vaguely resembling perfect English
not going to lie, schrecka has excellent english for only learning it in school.... i am going box hunting today hopefully i can find one so i can get this ball rolling. 
I am so excited.
I am so excited.
Well That i believe , its just with PSP history and the way he started this thread out it did not sound soo good.
Also Welcome to the Monkey.
that's cool I hope it works out for the both of you...I was just trying to look out for a fellow monkey even if it is PSP
...D
The real irony of all of this is that PSP is feeling all giddy about this transaction because this guy speaks perfect English. I wonder who told pinkshirt that this guy's English is impeccable. 
Pinkshirtphotos wouldn't know perfect English if there was a snowbank of it and he sideswiped his car into it. 
Pinkshirtphotos wouldn't know perfect English if there was a snowbank of it and he sideswiped his car into it. 
Welcome!hey,
i´m the guy pinkshirt is talking about. Trust me, im no scammer. Had the same problem at pinkbike. Want to buy a v10 frame from a guy in England. Send him few mails, he replied but then i found in ridemonkey a buy&sell announcement with the same pictures. Contacted the guy from rm and asked him if he put his bike in pinkbike. Sure he didn´t and so i was a little bit of angry and informed pb. I´m selling my old frame too and hope that there is no scammer. I can only say that i now have the money and will pay.I also think about if pinkshirt will send me the frame.
Greetz Basti
Would it be better had he learned it from a band of wolves???not going to lie, schrecka has excellent english for only learning it in school.... i am going box hunting today hopefully i can find one so i can get this ball rolling.
That would certainly be an improvement over PSP teaching him, and may very well beat the American public school system. I imagine the Germans schools can do better though.
Seriously,
Use escrow.com if you're sketched out. I bought a bike from a shady kid on the east coast and everything went great.
The buyer sends money to escrow.com. Escrow informs the seller that the funds are verified. After the buyer gets and inspects the bike, the buyer tells escrow to release the funds to the seller. No risk for anyone.
Only use www.escrow.com It's legit and many aren't.
Use escrow.com if you're sketched out. I bought a bike from a shady kid on the east coast and everything went great.
The buyer sends money to escrow.com. Escrow informs the seller that the funds are verified. After the buyer gets and inspects the bike, the buyer tells escrow to release the funds to the seller. No risk for anyone.
Only use www.escrow.com It's legit and many aren't.
hey,
i´m the guy pinkshirt is talking about. Trust me, im no scammer. Had the same problem at pinkbike. Want to buy a v10 frame from a guy in England. Send him few mails, he replied but then i found in ridemonkey a buy&sell announcement with the same pictures. Contacted the guy from rm and asked him if he put his bike in pinkbike. Sure he didn´t and so i was a little bit of angry and informed pb. I´m selling my old frame too and hope that there is no scammer. I can only say that i now have the money and will pay.I also think about if pinkshirt will send me the frame.
Greetz Basti
Welcome to the monkey, no offense was ever meant for you, its just a real blast Picking PsP to peices.
How about, if we are going to pick someone apart for being illiterate, we try to throw a little punctuation into the mix ourselves.
Don't snuggle up to Transcend. He's just trying to cover up for the fact that he's the Canadian connection for "brownie".
I want to point out that I do not think he is connected to terrorism. There is no way he would aid someone with such inferior web design techniques.
That would help, But at the same time, I know mine sucks. Up front full on admition on that one.!!!!!How about, if we are going to pick someone apart for being illiterate, we try to throw a little punctuation into the mix ourselves.
Are you kidding??? I rarely find mistakes.
Yeah Yeah, Ive been Drinking, more than I should. Want one?????
Oh Oh you only get Brew though, I have to save the little crown I have left for Opie!!!!
Oh Oh you only get Brew though, I have to save the little crown I have left for Opie!!!!
Has anyone seen PSP?
Want to have the frame now ´cause weather is fine here. No snow - means racing in the woods ;-)
Want to have the frame now ´cause weather is fine here. No snow - means racing in the woods ;-)