PDC Racing Freeride.

Toshi · Dec 19, 2004

ah, my bad. in my surfing of a few forums i haven't come across any info on the freeride model other than a bunch of "that looks cool" posts...

vitox · Dec 19, 2004

ive forwarded this post to kyle he should be back with you soon

anyway it has replaceable dropouts.

vitox · Dec 19, 2004

yes

i suppose he`ll post back (he is on RM, and has been for years)

it very likely has a qr and a t/a option, but im not certain, i do however know it has a normal sized bb so most likely t/a hub dimension would be 135/12mm

mike425 · Dec 20, 2004

I thought you were after a racelink? :think:

mike

UiUiUiUi · Dec 20, 2004

mike425 said:
I thought you were after a racelink?

mike

maybe money issues diverted him? :think:

in another thread he's claiming to put some new parts on his V10
so nevermind, it seems he's just picking our brains, kill time, or whatever...

DHS · Dec 20, 2004

i LOVE my racelink

but that may be to small for you.

k9handler · Dec 20, 2004

that is a nice looking machine, design is sweet....I want one. =o)

Gfreak · Dec 20, 2004

I"m looking to get my wife an new FR bike but she is 4'-11' . What's the standover height and tob tube length on this bike?

MikeD · Dec 20, 2004

Gfreak said:
I"m looking to get my wife an new FR bike but she is 4'-11' . What's the standover height and tob tube length on this bike?

Check out the Titus bikes for your wife, too. They make REALLY small sizes.

I really, really like the PDC bikes myself.

Gfreak · Dec 20, 2004

My wife is currently riding a 2001 extra small Titus Quasi Moto. The problem is they only have 6" of travel and it has a steep head angle (70 deg.). The super moto's do not come in extra small and tend to be big for her.

Please keep the suggestions coming.

MikeD · Dec 20, 2004

Gfreak said:
Please keep the suggestions coming.

Might wanna start your own thread for that...

dropmachine · Dec 20, 2004

Mountain Cycle?

Tully · Dec 20, 2004

Are much are the PDC freeride frames?

Brad23 · Dec 20, 2004

Gfreak said:
My wife is currently riding a 2001 extra small Titus Quasi Moto. The problem is they only have 6" of travel and it has a steep head angle (70 deg.). The super moto's do not come in extra small and tend to be big for her.

Please keep the suggestions coming.

check out Dark Cycles, custom light steel frames, pretty sweet.

dhdescender · Dec 20, 2004

rockymt21 said:
Kyle as in the owner or what?

Should I expect an email or is he a member of this forum?

What I ment was does it take like 10mm 12mm or qr...

Kyle as in the owner of PDC

I know the website sucks, but it's only temporary, so I'll give you as much info as I can right here!

Freeride / 4x
Competitive Advantage:
Low Standover Height (28.5")
Full Seat tube Insertion
Full Compliment Sealed Torrington Needle Bearings, ½ (12.70mm) 4140 Hardened Ground Axles. (not shown on prototype freeride frames, these pivots have been proven for years of use and abuse on the DH-One's, with the original design developed by Avalanche).
7005 Easton RAD front triangle construction, HD Linkage and rear triangle.
Both the upper and lower linkage is cross-braced, resulting in a very solid rear end.
Various Linkage/geometry options, all of the freeride shock choices bolt directly to the frame, with the 4x version using a supplimentary mount.
Low Center of Gravity.
73mm BB Shell /w Integrated ISCG tabs
Feature bolt on rear dropouts, and International Standard disc brake mounts. Dropout options are QR (135mm) or 12mm Thru-Axle (135mm). Chainstay length choices are 16.8" or 17.1" respectivly.

Take the bike you've seen at interbike, and pump it up to get an idea of the production version. The new models are....ummm... :drool:

The Freeride / 4x Frames are the same front and rear triangles, with the option to change the rear shock, shock mounting location, and chainstay length. Each rear wheel travel setting has been designed to work with a specific fork length to achieve correct geometry.
Other travel settings are available other than what is listed simply requires larger lead time, and possible cost increase. Simply put, you can convert one to the other by switching shocks out.

Shock choices are Manitou Swinger 4-way, 6-way, Romic Twin, Avalanche, and possibly progressive. Complete buildups are availible. currently I don't have a "standard" build, best to inquire with what you need and I'll hook you up. Romic had a new "DH" shock with a resivoir featured at interbike, and when availible from romic, will be availible with the Freeride frame.

Fox won't sell their Products as Original equipment unless the bike is sold complete, this is why they are not listed in the shock choices.

Geometry Freeride:
Head Angle: 67 Degrees
Seat Angle: 58* Degrees (Actual)
Chainstay Length: 17.2 ( 436.88mm)
Bottom Bracket Height: 14.4 (325.12mm)
Top Tube Length (Actual): 22.15 (563.53)
Designed for 6-7.5 Fork & Has 110mm Headtube Length.
Rear Wheel Travel: 8.0 Via 2.75 Stroke shock. (2.9:1 leverage ratio)

Estimated Retail Price $2325CAD (1850USD approx). (quoted with Romic Twin or Manitou swinger 4 way)

Geometry: 4x
Head Angle: 69 Degrees
Seat Angle: 61* Degrees (Actual)
Chainstay Length: 16.9 ( 429.26mm )
Bottom Bracket Height: 13.5 (325.12mm)
Top Tube Length (Actual): 22.15 (563.53)
Designed for 4-6 Fork & Has 110mm Headtube Length.
Rear Wheel Travel: 5.6 via 2 Manitou Swinger shock, 4.8 via 1.5 stroke shock.

Am I missing anything? You can reach me @ info@pdcracing.com or just reply here, then the info is availible to everyone! always happy to give info on my products!!

-Kyle

MikeD · Dec 20, 2004

dhdescender said:
Take the bike you've seen at interbike, and pump it up to get an idea of the production version. The new models are....ummm...

Ummmm....you can tell us, but we'd rather see...

Thanks for the info!

Brad23 · Dec 20, 2004

dhdescender said:
Geometry Freeride:
Designed for 4-5.5 Fork & Has 110mm Headtube Length.
Rear Wheel Travel: 8.0 Via 2.75 Stroke shock. (2.9:1 leverage ratio)
-Kyle

umm 4-5.5" fork??? thats a typo right???!!
any chance of a Avalanche shock upgrade??

Cheers, Brad

dhdescender · Dec 20, 2004

Brad23 said:
umm 4-5.5" fork??? thats a typo right???!!
any chance of a Avalanche shock upgrade??

Cheers, Brad

'tis a typo, myerror I've edited.

Avalanche shocks are an option, I would need to know the model, and all the rider info to be able to price quote.

Toshi · Dec 20, 2004

dhdescender said:
'tis a typo, myerror I've edited.

that's a shame. i was hoping it was the new trend so that i could mount up a 130mm Z1 on my canfield

...

Brad23 · Dec 20, 2004

please let me know if there would be any of these around San Francisco so I could test ride otherwise let me know any other places I might be able to.

Thanks, Brad

dhdescender · Dec 20, 2004

Brad23 said:
please let me know if there would be any of these around San Francisco so I could test ride otherwise let me know any other places I might be able to.

Thanks, Brad

Brad so far the closest *confirmed* order is to Idaho Springs CO. I've got shops all over the states interested in the new frames, so I wouldn't be surprised if somone local ordered one.

Gfreak · Dec 20, 2004

So is PDC going to offer more sizes or is it going to be 1 size fits all?

dropmachine · Dec 20, 2004

I was wondering the same thing, being a similar height and all.

BUt i'm thinking with that laid back seatpost angle, and a RaceFace post, thing would likely work out pretty good.

Incubus · Dec 20, 2004

Don't forget that the TT measurement was actual, not effective. That's a well sloped TT so I'm sure it feels longer than the numbers might look. Additionally the seat tube is raked nicely which will certainly stretch the cockpit when the seat is raised (then again, I remember reading that the similarly designed Evil imp wasn't exactly ideal for taller riders).

rainbow_smoke · Dec 20, 2004

the problem of just having a layback post is the downtube length doesn't change...
your knees are still way to close to your upper crown with the shorter tt...

CreeP · Dec 21, 2004

Exactly!

well Kyle, how long is the downtube? or the bb centre to bar clamp centre, assuming a 16mm(1.125 ck nothreadset) upper stack and a 50mm zero degree stem? i'm trying to come up with a standard here, but it's awfully complex. Morley Wilkins calls it reach.

Hmm, simpler might be bb center to center top of headtube, could we standardize this? Afterall we don't have to be beholden to the geometry conventions of the roadie crowd as the use of a mtb is far more complex.

xy9ine · Dec 21, 2004

i agree that the standard for cockpit measurement should be something other than toptube length. i always use bb center to center of the heattube bottom - that is the effective front center length regardless of variable seat tube configurations.

CreeP · Dec 23, 2004

incidentally, i measured my new frame and the bb center to ht top center is 25.5"

CreeP · Dec 23, 2004

it would be cool to find out that measurement on some other frames.

CreeP · Dec 25, 2004

what's the weight of the 4x/freeride frame?

dhdescender · Jan 9, 2005

Center of the BB to the center of the top of the headtube is 28.8", medium frame.

The prototype frames with a 2.75" stroke shock weighed 8.5lbs. The production version I estimate to be another pound, will confirm when it's all dressed. :thumb:

Sandwich · Jan 9, 2005

um, typo much? I think you just said my next frame will weigh 9.5 lbs. You might want to correct that before getting people's hopes up....

:drool:

CreeP · Jan 9, 2005

ga.... a voice is saying: come over to the dark side.

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