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Penalty for Drunkeness?

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  1. Da Peach

    Da Peach Outwitted by a rodent

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    So, I currently work on a large construction site.

    A couple weeks ago, my superintendant showed up reeking of booze and acting weird. He was obviously drunk, and he was sent home for the day. We was back the next day, sober.

    What would be the consequences of showing up drunk at your workplace?
     

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  2. N8 v2.0

    N8 v2.0 Not the sharpest tool in the shed

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  3. stosh

    stosh Darth Bailer

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    We have liquor in our office.
    There is some beer in the fridge as well. One guy openly speaks about drinking his Johnny Walker Black when he works late.

    Actually being drunk at work is a whole different story.
     
  4. Westy

    Westy the teste

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    Official policy is that the first time we get a warning.
    Second time we are required to attend counseling.
    Third time we get a permanend unpaid vacation.

    Reality is the first time you get caught they start looking for a reason to fire you and they always find a reason to fire you.
     
  5. AngryMetalsmith

    AngryMetalsmith Business is good, thanks for asking

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    He should get a promotion.

    That's got upper level management written all over it.
     
  6. ire

    ire Turbo Monkey

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    If he was drunk off PBR then he's not cut for upper management, if it was JD single barrel then maybe
     
  7. reflux

    reflux Turbo Monkey

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    There's no written policy, but they'd likely start looking for my replacement.
     
  8. Da Peach

    Da Peach Outwitted by a rodent

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    This guy is a superintendant responsible for the productivity and safety of 10 men.
     
  9. Broken_Spoke

    Broken_Spoke Mr. Big Hot Pastrami

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    Where I work it would be instant termination.
     
  10. Westy

    Westy the teste

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    Subway has zero tolerance.
     
  11. LordOpie

    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    I used to work in a record store in the late '80s where if you showed up sober, you'd be fired.
     
  12. ire

    ire Turbo Monkey

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    They actually can get sued for that. Under the Americans with Disabilities Act, being an alcoholic is a disability. They have to give you the chance to get cleaned up before they can fire you
     
  13. stinkyboy

    stinkyboy Plastic Santa

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    There's tons of booze here, but it's unspoken that you wait until the end of the day, or if there's a celebration.

    Doing shots at 10 am would prolly be frowned upon.
     
  14. Da Peach

    Da Peach Outwitted by a rodent

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    We're building some pretty important provincial infrastructure. I can't believe he's still on site.
     
  15. MMike

    MMike A fowl peckerwood.

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    Me either. I thought that was getting "sorted out".
     
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    DirtyMike Turbo Fluffer

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    At my work, you get an instant one month suspension, and you are offered the opportnunity to go to AA. If you refuse, your fired. You miss one meeting, your fired, refuse rehab, your fired. Very non tolerant.
     
  17. Wumpus

    Wumpus makes avatars better

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    How do they know if you miss a meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous?
     
  18. DirtyMike

    DirtyMike Turbo Fluffer

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    Your sponser will call our owner, Its part of the agreement if you should happenb to end up in this situation.
     
  19. offsprung

    offsprung Monkey

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    company sponsored rehab
     
  20. Quo Fan

    Quo Fan don't make me kick your ass

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    Here. I'm just not sure where "here" is.
    We have no written policy (that I'm aware of), but I don't think I'd be around very long if I showed up drunk.
     
  21. MTBstud12

    MTBstud12 Monkey

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    Assuming you can prove you're an alcoholic. Not all people who show up drunk are "alcoholics".
     
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    MTBstud12 Monkey

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    I think you missed the catch there Mike. Wumpus highlighted anonymous. Get it...
     
  23. LordOpie

    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    At the meeting to discuss... show up drunk.
     
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    MTBstud12 Monkey

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    Good point Opie! Knew you had the knowledge in ya!
     
  25. Acadian

    Acadian Born Again Newbie

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    same here...

    current state of the fridge on our floors kitchen - cases are on the it since the fridge is already loaded :monkeydance:
     
  26. johnbryanpeters

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    :stupid: Pretty close to the way we do it. Sitting in your office with a beer as quitting time approaches is not common, but neither would it be frowned upon and people seldom even do that. If we go out for lunch a beer is OK and when we have parties people's consumption is all over the map.
     
  27. r464

    r464 Turbo Monkey

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    Working from home has advantages...
     
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    pinkshirtphotos site moron

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    i got a beer the other day as a tip for loading a farmer with hay... weird tip but i enjoyed it and made the day a little easier.
     
  29. blue

    blue boob hater

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  30. r464

    r464 Turbo Monkey

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    Was that after he "took you out behind the barn"?
     
  31. Broken_Spoke

    Broken_Spoke Mr. Big Hot Pastrami

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    If people had came to work drunk at Subway it might have made that job not as bad, but that place was so depressing that not even alcohol could lighten the mood.
     
  32. stevew

    stevew unique white person

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    When my brothers worked in construction in VA, it was not uncommon for people on the site to be drunk or under the influence of some type of drug. Electricians tripping on mushrooms/acid was commonplace.
     
  33. skyst3alth

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    Same here, we have beer and alcohol in our office and when 4-4:30 rolls around the bosses are fine with us cracking one open. As long as we're not on the phone or expecting calls from a client.

    The helpdesk guys have a bottle of whiskey under their desk that seems to have a little (lot) less in it every time i'm there. Can't really blame them, that job is miserable.
     
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    Where I work? Instant unconditional unemployment.
     
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    Reactor Turbo Monkey

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    Not where I work. Besides alcoholism is a disease, not a qualifying disability. Under ADA you are required to make reasonable accommodations, not put people's lives at risk. ADA doesn't include allowing a drunk to work on a construction site or run dangerous equipment.
     
  36. ThePriceSeliger

    ThePriceSeliger Mushhead

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    Lets see. At the Bike shop? It was common for someone to be under the influence. At the law firm, is was common for the attornys to drink a bit here and there, but there is no REAL boss there. At Cold Stone, it was frowned upon.
     
  37. Serial Midget

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    No alcohol at my place of employment - prescription pain killers are the most commonly used intoxicant.
     
  38. DirtyMike

    DirtyMike Turbo Fluffer

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    I did notice, and was trying to say that if you end up in the situation of being caught drunk at work, to keep your job, first you end up at rehab, company paid, afterwords you are required to attend AA for at least a year. The owner makes arrangements with whoever your sponser is to make sure your going. Its part of the agreement made if you want to keep your job. But, Only the owner will be informed, noone else.
     
  39. Serial Midget

    Serial Midget Al Bundy

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    There is a problem there somewhere - if your employer does indeed follow this policy he is setting himself up for some pretty serious legal battles. He has no legal right to demand the information he is requiring as a condition of continued employment. Even if he does manage to gather this information he has NO LEGAL RIGHT to use it as a s basis for any decision he would make that will impact his employees.

    I am no lawyer but... I don't think any employer has the legal right to form a contract which requires participation in AA or any other rehab program as a condition of continued employment.

    First - being drunk at work does not equal alcoholism, making that leap by requiring participation as a condition of continued employment violates Federally protected employee rights.

    Second - Participation in any rehab / recovery program does not guarantee results; failure to attend such programs does not mean the non-participant has reverted to the alleged addictive behavior.

    Most companies have clearly defined policies that prohibit working under the influence of drugs and / or alcohol, it is the violation of these policies that are the basis for dismissal or continued employment. Employers have NO RIGHT or need to become involved in the private lives of their employees.

    ...or at least that's how it works down at the shoe shop. :)
     
  40. BikeMike

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    There's your problem.