[sanjuro]

I did a pool last year (which I came in near the bottom) of the top 7 finishers in General Classification, as well as the Green (Points) and Polka-Dot (Mountains) jersey winner.

Feel free to post your predictions for an informal competition. I will have mine up by Friday.

 

[bikeguy100k]

I'll post mine by Friday as well! I'll kick down a few bucks or come up with some sort of cool swag for the winner.

 

[Silver]

1. Armstrong
2. Leipheimer
3. Basso
4. Ullrich
5. Landis
6. Karpets
7. Popyvich

Green-Boonen
KOM-Vinokourov (T-Mobile is going to try to send him up the road on the mountain stages to try put pressure on Discovery, he won't be competing for the GC because they are going to burn him up, but he might have a day like Virenque and get enough points to win it.)

 

[sanjuro]

This was last year's pool formula:

Scoring:

We are using the following UCI points scale:

1st – 500 points

2nd – 375

3rd – 300

4th – 275

5th – 250

6th – 225

7th – 200

Mountains – 70 points

Points – 70 points



Rules:

To correct for misplacings we adjust up or down by the number of placing times 15. For example, if you pick Tyler to come in 3rd and he gets 2nd you would receive 1 place x 15 points, so you would receive 315 points instead of 300. If one of your riders dose not finish in the top seven (7) then you are not deducted points. There is obviously only one place for the mountains and polka-dot points.

Tiebreak: If there is a tie in the total point tallies, we will add the GC finish of all nine (9) riders selected (i.e. if your 9 selections finish 1,2,5,7,100,110, 114, 118, and 120; then your final standings tally is 577) and whoever has the lowest tally wins. DNF's will be counted behind the last finisher in order, i.e. the first rider to quit is the last placed rider. If two or more people pick exactly the same nine (9) riders in the same order then the pot will be split among the winners.

The key with my formula is get as many riders as possible, no matter what their placing. Everyone picked the same 5 guys, like Mayo, Heras, and Tyler. The top 2 guys last year picked Basso in the top 7, who was a dark horse.

No betting, because I don't want to be responsible for calculating the pool. But everyone enjoyed it last year.

 

[The Toninator]

1. France Armstrong (ie Lance Francestrong)
2. Ivan Basso
3. Alexander Vinokourov
4. Jan Ullrich
5. Christophe Moreau
6. Floyd Landis
7. Levi Leipeimer
*8. Carlos Sastre
*9. Jose Azevedo

 

[Heidi]

Armstrong
Ullrich
Basso
Kloden
Landis
Botero
Mayo


KOM - Vino
Green - Boonen
White - Contador...or Valverde

You just have to believe that Ullrich will put it all on the line...you just have to.

 

[The Toninator]

i'm with you Ullrich is going to push hard and probably get second again.
i also like you botero and mayo pics. If we could select top 20 it would be easier.
if all the #1's stay in this year it will be a very exciting race.
I’d also like to see Biloki back in the mix.
We also cant forget about Bettini. (but did i read somewhere he wasnt racing?)

 

[Westy]

I predict Ditka takes the yellow, KOM and the sprint points.

 

[DRB]

O'Grady - pointy guy
Rasmussen - Dots
Valverde - youngster

armstrong
basso
ullrich
botero
mancebo
azevedo
Leipheimer

 

[stinkyboy]

Basso
Mancebo
Julich
Armstrong
Sastre
McGee
Chavenal

 

[Motionboy2]

I don't know the top seven, but I would guess

Armstrong
Ulrich
Basso
Leipheimer
Landis
Kloden
Mayo

 

[DBR X6 RIDER]

I can't even pick the winner, let alone the top seven. It should be Lance and a various assortment of also-rans. I have this gut feeling that Lance's luck won't be as good this year despite seven being a lucky number. Whether it be a mechanical or the infamous stage one pile-up, I just think he's going to have some major adversity to overcome. A couple/few other teams are adopting the Postal/Discovery team strategy as well.

I sense chaos.

Hell, I'll wing it...
1) Armstrong
2) Ullrich
3) Leipheimer
4) Basso
5) Landis
6) Mayo
7) Vinokourouv

 

[chicodude]

Armstrong
Basso
Ullrich
Leipheimer
Kloden
Mayo
Landis

 

[narlus]

i see both hetfield and even hammett as being stronger, overall, than ulrich.

 

[Sherpa]

1)Armstrong
2)Basso
3)Ullrich
4)Leipheimer
5)Mayo
6)Kloden
7)Botero

Dots-Vinokourouv
Points-O'Grady

 

[sanjuro]

I can't even pick the winner, let alone the top seven. It should be Lance and a various assortment of also-rans. I have this gut feeling that Lance's luck won't be as good this year despite seven being a lucky number. Whether it be a mechanical or the infamous stage one pile-up, I just think he's going to have some major adversity to overcome. A couple/few other teams are adopting the Postal/Discovery team strategy as well.

I sense chaos.

Hell, I'll wing it...
1) Armstrong
2) Ullrich
3) Leipheimer
4) Basso
5) Landis
6) Mayo
7) Vinokourouv

When you try to pick the TdF winners, you start to realize how difficult it is to compete in the Tour. Last year everyone picked Lance, Ullrich, Heras, Mayo, and Tyler in the top 5; only Lance and Jan finished the race.

I still haven't figured out my 7 yet either.

 

[Andy_B]

Peaty
Minnar
Ced....er


oops wrong race

 

[golgiaparatus]

armstrong
ullrich
Kloden
basso

botero
Mayo
Landis

I dunno, I'm not up on who is in what shape this year so I cant really make an educated guess on the bottom 3, the top 4 I like though, and I could see it happening in that order.

 

[firetoole]

Results for the Tour DE Armstrong

1.Ditka
2.Armstrong
3.Ullrich
4.Basso
5.Kloden
6.Botero
7.Landis

 

[Westy]

I'm still hoping Tyler will birth his twin brother sometime tonight and be allowed back to take the yellow.

 

[sanjuro]

1. Lance
2. Kloden
3. Ullrich
4. Heras
5. Basso
6. Leipheimer
7. Mayo

Points McEwen
Mountain Mayo

 

[bikeguy100k]

Lance
Vino
Ullrich
Kloden
Mayo
Basso
Leipheimer

 

[Silver]

I hate to gloat, but it looks like I had a good opening stage

Sorry to y'all who picked Mayo and Kloden!

 

[The Toninator]

1. France Armstrong (ie Lance Francestrong)
2. Ivan Basso
3. Alexander Vinokourov
4. Jan Ullrich
5. Christophe Moreau
6. Floyd Landis
7. Levi Leipeimer
*8. Carlos Sastre
*9. Jose Azevedo

OH YEA, AND THEIR OFF!!!! (the back) hehehehe
la #2
ib #20
av #3
ju #12
cm #42
fl #6
ll #14
cs #29
ja #34

Beloki is racing and didnt have a horrable day, good to see him racing #56

1. David Zabriskie (USA), CSC
2. Lance Armstrong (USA), Discovery Channel, at 00:02
3. Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz), T-Mobile, at 00:53
4. George Hincapie (USA), Discovery Channel, at 00:57
5. Laszlo Bodrogi (Hun), Credit Agricole, at 00:59
6. Floyd Landis (USA), Phonak, at 1:02
7. Fabian Cancellara (Swi), Fassa Bortolo, at 1:02
8. Jens Voigt (G), CSC, at 1:04
9. Vladimir Karpets (Rus), Illes Balears, at 1:05
10. Igor Gonzalez Galdeano (Sp), Liberty Seguros, at 1:06
11. Bobby Julich (USA), CSC, at 1:07
12. Jan Ullrich (G), T-Mobile, at 1:08
13. Jose Enrique Gutierrez (Sp), Phonak, at 1:12
14. Levi Leipheimer (USA), Gerolsteiner, at 1:13
15. Michael Rich (G), Gerolsteiner, at 1:13
16. Jose Luis Rubiera (Sp), Discovery Channel, at 1:16
17. Yaroslav Popovych (Ukr), Discovery Channel, at 1:18
18. Bradley McGee (Aus), Francaise des Jeux, at 1:24
19. Marc Wauters (B), Rabobank, at 1:25
20. Ivan Basso (I), CSC, at 1:26
21. Sebastian Lang (G), Gerolsteiner, at 1:27
22. Benjamin Noval Gonzalez (Sp), Discovery Channel, at 1:28
23. Robert Hunter (RSA), Phonak, at 1:30
24. Walter Beneteau (F), Bouygues Telecom, at 1:30
25. Santiago Botero (Col), Phonak, at 1:30
26. Luke Roberts (Aus), CSC, at 1:30
27. Bert Grabsch (G), Phonak, at 1:31
28. Arvesen Kurt-Asle (Nor), CSC, at 1:32
29. Carlos Sastre (Sp), CSC, at 1:32
30. Dario Frigo (I), Fassa Bortolo, at 1:34
31. Pavel Padrnos (Cz), Discovery Channel, at 1:34
32. Paolo Savoldelli (I), Discovery Channel, at 1:35
33. Luis Sanchez (Sp), Liberty Seguros, at 1:39
34. Jose Azevedo (P), Discovery Channel, at 1:39
35. Cadel Evans (Aus), Davitamon-Lotto, at 1:41
36. Dario Cioni (I), Liquigas-Bianchi, at 1:46
37. Andriy Grivko (Ukr), Domina Vacanze, at 1:46
38. Ronny Scholz (G), Gerolsteiner, at 1:48
39. Serhiy Honchar (Ukr), Domina Vacanze, at 1:48
40. Tom Boonen (B), Quickstep, at 1:49
41. Christophe Moreau (F), Credit Agricole, at 1:50
42. Stuart O’Grady (Aus), Cofidis, at 1:50
43. Servais Knaven (Nl), Quickstep, at 1:50
44. Juan Antonio Flecha (Sp), Fassa Bortolo, at 1:51
45. Michael Rogers (Aus), Quickstep, at 1:53
46. Denis Menchov (Rus), Rabobank, at 1:55
47. Lorenzo Bernucci (I), Fassa Bortolo, at 1:55
48. Alberto Contador (Sp), Liberty Seguros, at 1:57
49. Mauro Facci (I), Fassa Bortolo, at 2:00
50. Yuriy Krivtsov (Ukr), Ag2r Prevoyance, at 2:00
51. Andreas Klöden (G), T-Mobile, at 2:01
52. Nicki Sorensen (Dk), CSC, at 2:01
53. Christopher Horner (USA), Saunier Duval, at 2:01
54. Beat Zberg (Swi), Gerolsteiner, at 2:02
55. Alessandro Cortinovis (I), Domina Vacanze, at 2:03
56. Joseba Beloki (Sp), Liberty Seguros, at 2:05
57. Magnus Backstedt (Swe), Liquigas-Bianchi, at 2:05
58. Oscar Pereiro Sio (Sp), Phonak, at 2:06
59. Thomas Lokvist (Swe), Francaise des Jeux, at 2:06
60. Jose Luis Arrieta (Sp), Illes Balears, at 2:08
61. Didier Rous (F), Bouygues Telecom, at 2:08
62. Bernhard Eisel (A), Francaise des Jeux, at 2:08
63. Fred Rodriguez (USA), Davitamon-Lotto, at 2:09
64. Daniel Becke (G), Illes Balears, at 2:11
65. Joost Posthuma (Nl), Rabobank, at 2:11
66. Andrey Kashechkin (Kaz), Credit Agricole, at 2:12
67. Bram Tankink (Nl), Quickstep, at 2:12
68. Sandy Casar (F), Francaise des Jeux, at 2:13
69. Rubens Bertogliati (Swi), Saunier Duval, at 2:13
70. Manuel Beltran (Sp), Discovery Channel, at 2:14
71. Michael Albasini (Swi), Liquigas-Bianchi, at 2:14
72. Laurent Brochard (F), Bouygues Telecom, at 2:16
73. Sylvain Chavanel (F), Cofidis, at 2:17
74. Robert Forster (G), Gerolsteiner, at 2:17
75. Mikel Astarloza (Sp), Ag2r Prevoyance, at 2:18
76. Xabier Zandio (Sp), Illes Balears, at 2:19
77. Erik Dekker (Nl), Rabobank, at 2:19
78. Haimar Zubeldia (Sp), Euskaltel-Euskadi, at 2:20
79. Roberto Heras (Sp), Liberty Seguros, at 2:20
80. Robbie Mc Ewen (Aus), Davitamon-Lotto, at 2:21
81. Massimo Giunti (I), Fassa Bortolo, at 2:24
82. Alejandro Valverde (Sp), Illes Balears, at 2:24
83. Jorg Jaksche (G), Liberty Seguros, at 2:24
84. Manuel Quinziato (I), Saunier Duval, at 2:25
85. Jorg Ludewig (G), Domina Vacanze, at 2:28
86. David Moncoutie (F), Cofidis, at 2:28
87. Laurent Lefevre (F), Bouygues Telecom, at 2:29
88. Stephan Schreck (G), T-Mobile, at 2:29
89. Tobias Steinhauser (G), T-Mobile, at 2:29
90. Gorazd Stangelj (SLO), Lampre, at 2:30
91. Franco Pellizotti (I), Liquigas-Bianchi, at 2:30
92. Stefano Garzelli (I), Liquigas-Bianchi, at 2:30
93. Nicolas Jalabert (F), Phonak, at 2:31
94. Juan Manuel Garate (Sp), Saunier Duval, at 2:31
95. Patrik Sinkewitz (G), Quickstep, at 2:31
96. Alexandre Moos (Swi), Phonak, at 2:31
97. Francisco Mancebo (Sp), Illes Balears, at 2:31
98. Giuseppe Guerini (I), T-Mobile, at 2:31
99. Giovanni Lombardi (I), CSC, at 2:31
100. Wilfried Cretskens (B), Quickstep, at 2:32
101. Matthew White (Aus), Cofidis, at 2:32
102. Vicente Garcia Acosta (Sp), Illes Balears, at 2:32
103. Fabian Wegmann (G), Gerolsteiner, at 2:32
104. Mario Aerts (B), Davitamon-Lotto, at 2:33
105. Sebastien Joly (F), Credit Agricole, at 2:34
106. Nicolas Fritsch (F), Saunier Duval, at 2:35
107. Angel Vicioso (Sp), Liberty Seguros, at 2:35
108. Leon Van Bon (Nl), Davitamon-Lotto, at 2:36
109. Kim Kirchen (Lux), Fassa Bortolo, at 2:36
110. Kevin Hulsmans (B), Quickstep, at 2:37
111. Georg Totschnig (A), Gerolsteiner, at 2:37
112. Evgeni Petrov (Rus), Lampre, at 2:39
113. Gianluca Bortolami (I), Lampre, at 2:39
114. Francis Mourey (F), Francaise des Jeux, at 2:40
115. Jose Angel Gomez (Sp), Saunier Duval, at 2:41
116. Angelo Furlan (I), Domina Vacanze, at 2:42
117. Daniele Nardello (I), T-Mobile, at 2:43
118. Luciano Pagliarini (BRA), Liquigas-Bianchi, at 2:43
119. Inaki Isasi (Sp), Euskaltel-Euskadi, at 2:43
120. Anthony Geslin (F), Bouygues Telecom, at 2:44
121. Mauro Gerosa (I), Liquigas-Bianchi, at 2:44
122. Ludovic Turpin (F), Ag2r Prevoyance, at 2:44
123. Eddy Mazzoleni (I), Lampre, at 2:44
124. Allan Davis (Aus), Liberty Seguros, at 2:44
125. Oscar Sevilla (Sp), T-Mobile, at 2:44
126. Jerome Pineau (F), Bouygues Telecom, at 2:45
127. Gerrit Glomser (A), Lampre, at 2:46
128. David Herrero (Sp), Euskaltel-Euskadi, at 2:46
129. Johan Van Summeren (B), Davitamon-Lotto, at 2:46
130. Marcus Ljungqvist (Swe), Liquigas-Bianchi, at 2:48
131. Thomas Voeckler (F), Bouygues Telecom, at 2:48
132. Iker Camano (Sp), Euskaltel-Euskadi, at 2:49
133. Wim Vansevenant (B), Davitamon-Lotto, at 2:49
134. Volodymir Gustov (Ukr), Fassa Bortolo, at 2:49
135. Stephane Auge (F), Cofidis, at 2:51
136. Steve Zampieri (Swi), Phonak, at 2:52
137. David Canada (Sp), Saunier Duval, at 2:52
138. Christophe Mengin (F), Francaise des Jeux, at 2:52
139. Alessandro Bertolini (I), Domina Vacanze, at 2:52
140. Nicolas Portal (F), Ag2r Prevoyance, at 2:53
141. Marcos Serrano (Sp), Liberty Seguros, at 2:53
142. Alessandro Spezialetti (I), Lampre, at 2:53
143. Jaan Kirsipuu (Est), Credit Agricole, at 2:54
144. Pietro Caucchioli (I), Credit Agricole, at 2:54
145. Michael Boogerd (Nl), Rabobank, at 2:55
146. Constantino Zaballa (Sp), Saunier Duval, at 2:55
147. Pierrick Fedrigo (F), Bouygues Telecom, at 2:56
148. Matthieu Sprick (F), Bouygues Telecom, at 2:56
149. Iker Flores (Sp), Euskaltel-Euskadi, at 2:57
150. Nazon Jean-Patrick (F), Ag2r Prevoyance, at 2:58
151. Peter Wrolich (A), Gerolsteiner, at 2:58
152. Thierry Marichal (B), Cofidis, at 2:58
153. Thor Hushovd (Nor), Credit Agricole, at 2:58
154. Christophe Brandt (B), Davitamon-Lotto, at 2:59
155. Sylvain Calzati (F), Ag2r Prevoyance, at 2:59
156. Stephane Goubert (F), Ag2r Prevoyance, at 2:59
157. Daniele Righi (I), Lampre, at 3:00
158. Egoi Martinez (Sp), Euskaltel-Euskadi, at 3:01
159. Inigo Landaluze (Sp), Euskaltel-Euskadi, at 3:01
160. Patrice Halgand (F), Credit Agricole, at 3:03
161. Unai Etxebarria (Vz), Euskaltel-Euskadi, at 3:03
162. Isaac Galvez (Sp), Illes Balears, at 3:04
163. Stefano Zanini (I), Quickstep, at 3:05
164. Kjell Carlstrom (FIN), Liquigas-Bianchi, at 3:06
165. Philippe Gilbert (B), Francaise des Jeux, at 3:07
166. Simons Gerrans (Aus), Ag2r Prevoyance, at 3:08
167. Frederic Bessy (F), Cofidis, at 3:09
168. Matthias Kessler (G), T-Mobile, at 3:09
169. David Arroyo (Sp), Illes Balears, at 3:10
170. Claudio Corioni (I), Fassa Bortolo, at 3:11
171. Salvatore Commesso (I), Lampre, at 3:11
172. Samuel Dumoulin (F), Ag2r Prevoyance, at 3:11
173. Maxim Iglinskiy (Kaz), Domina Vacanze, at 3:12
174. Mickael Rasmussen (Dk), Rabobank, at 3:14
175. Iban Mayo (Sp), Euskaltel-Euskadi, at 3:15
176. Cedric Vasseur (F), Cofidis, at 3:18
177. David Loosli (Swi), Lampre, at 3:20
178. Guido Trenti (USA), Quickstep, at 3:21
179. Janeck Tombak (Est), Cofidis, at 3:23
180. Carlos Da Cruz (F), Francaise des Jeux, at 3:25
181. Pieter Weening (Nl), Rabobank, at 3:27
182. Gerben Lowik (Nl), Rabobank, at 3:27
183. Baden Cooke (Aus), Francaise des Jeux, at 3:36
184. Karsten Kroon (Nl), Rabobank, at 3:36
185. Axel Merckx (B), Davitamon-Lotto, at 3:37
186. Sebastien Hinault (F), Credit Agricole, at 3:37
187. Alessandro Vanotti (I), Domina Vacanze, at 3:44
188. Rafael Nuritdinov (UZB), Domina Vacanze, at 3:50
189. Leonardo Piepoli (I), Saunier Duval, at 4:40

 

[Wumpus]

1. Lance
2. Vinny
3. Basso
4. Ullrich
5. Botero
6. Leipheimer
7. Landis

Green -- McGee
Polka dot -- Mayo
Most Combative -- Jens Voigt

 

[sanjuro]

BTW, Zabriske winning:

Americans are at an apex of road success. Let's not take it for granted!

 

[blue]

Hell yeah, 3 guys in the top 20 from yoo-tah...can't beat that.

Zab's a stud, first tour, first stage, sets a goddamned record....awesome

 

[DBR X6 RIDER]

Awesome to see Zabriske tear it up. For such an explosive rider he sure is soft-spoken during interviews. I'm still tripping that Lance actually passed Ullrich in such a short TT. Major psychologial blow for Ullrich (and a large percentage of the contenders) and an huge psychological boost for Lance and his teammates. Still a long way to go before Paris, so nothing's in the bag as of yet.

Sure looks pretty ominous for anybody in the peleton without the number "1" on their jersey.

 

[The Toninator]

bumpers.

 

[Silver]

Crap, Karpets was almost the Lantern Rouge today...

 

[DBR X6 RIDER]

Crap, Karpets was almost the Lantern Rouge today...

What a difference a day can make. I'm bummed Jens Voigt missed the time cut yesterday as well. If he ever got good at climbing he'd be one dangerous rider.

 

[sanjuro]

As a follow up, I only have 3 of the top 7 riders, Lance, Basso, and Leipemheimer. Everyone has to score themselves here...

 

[DRB]

I've got 5 of 7 right now.

Armstrong
Basso
Ullrich
Mancebo
Leipheimer

Rasmussen has the dots
O'Grady is 2nd in points....

Valverde is out.

 

[The Toninator]

1. France Armstrong (ie Lance Francestrong)
2. Ivan Basso
3. Alexander Vinokourov
4. Jan Ullrich
5. Christophe Moreau
6. Floyd Landis
7. Levi Leipeimer

if moreau can get a good rest he might be able to make a brake and get back in to the top 7 with vino.
all my 7 are in the top 10.

 

[The Toninator]

1. France Armstrong (ie Lance Francestrong)
2. Ivan Basso
3. Alexander Vinokourov
4. Jan Ullrich
5. Christophe Moreau
6. Floyd Landis
7. Levi Leipeimer

now if we can brake mancebo and rasmussen's legs i'll be a winner!!!

1. Lance Armstrong (USA), Discovery Channel, 72:55:50
2. Ivan Basso (I), CSC, 02:46
3. Mickael Rasmussen (Dk), Rabobank, 03:09
4. Jan Ullrich (G), T-Mobile, 05:58
5. Francisco Mancebo (Sp), Illes Balears, 06:31
6. Levi Leipheimer (USA), Gerolsteiner, 07:35
7. Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz), T-Mobile, 09:38
8. Cadel Evans (Aus), Davitamon-Lotto, 09:49
9. Floyd Landis (USA), Phonak, 09:53
10. Christophe Moreau (F), Credit Agricole, 12:07

 

[DRB]

1. Lance Armstrong (USA), Discovery Channel, 72:55:50
2. Ivan Basso (I), CSC, 02:46
3. Mickael Rasmussen (Dk), Rabobank, 03:09
4. Jan Ullrich (G), T-Mobile, 05:58
5. Francisco Mancebo (Sp), Illes Balears, 06:31
6. Levi Leipheimer (USA), Gerolsteiner, 07:35
7. Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz), T-Mobile, 09:38
8. Cadel Evans (Aus), Davitamon-Lotto, 09:49
9. Floyd Landis (USA), Phonak, 09:53
10. Christophe Moreau (F), Credit Agricole, 12:07[/QUOTE]

O'Grady - pointy guy (not going to get a chance at this rate)
Rasmussen - Dots
Valverde - youngster (gone)

armstrong
basso
ullrich
botero
mancebo
azevedo
Leipheimer

How we gonna break this tie....

 

[The Toninator]

O'Grady - pointy guy (not going to get a chance at this rate)
Rasmussen - Dots
Valverde - youngster (gone)

armstrong
basso
ullrich
botero
mancebo
azevedo
Leipheimer

How we gonna break this tie....

you would probably win becuase i didnt pick the other jersey contenders.

 

[DRB]

you would probably win becuase i didnt pick the other jersey contenders.

That's not a very ATTACK attitude.

You should like the end of today's stage. It was bedlham.

 

[The Toninator]

That's not a very ATTACK attitude.

You should like the end of today's stage. It was bedlham.

oh YEA, WELL SINCE I DID PICK THE TOP 9 AND DID BETTER THAN YOU AT THAT, I DECLARE MYSELF THE WINNER!!!!!

I head it, sounded pretty good.