believe it or not i dont think they are as hard to come by as they were 3 years ago, like i said i had many conversations with alain over at dobermann and it really made me realize that these guys live for their product. Im also pretty sure that if you called up union or tonic you would talk to the main guy. thats what makes these companies so appealing, you talk to the guy who knows what hes talking about, they actually know what they are talking about and are building an astonishing product. I can only hope for success for all of these companies in the futureI personally can't think of many companies where you can ring the owner/dude who's actually building your bike directly and chat with him about what you're looking for in your new bike - so if it comes down to how a company is being run; Nemesis has an edge on alot of other companies out there right now.