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Regarding fixies:

blue

boob hater
Jan 24, 2004
10,160
2
california
What with their fashion accessory status, I can understand people trying to pawn off crap on hipster morons for steep prices, but this...

http://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/bik/401775922.html

HUH?! This isn't the first of these I've seen, either. People asking obscene amounts of money for fixies built out of the thrift store and bike shop crap parts bin...I need to get in on this. $50 worth of junk, put it together in an evening, list it on CL the next day for $650...
 

Thrillkil

Monkey
May 25, 2005
595
0
Isla Vista, CA
I actually make a nice supplemental income buying old crappy 10speeds from homeless people then chopping them into fixies, and selling for a 300% return on investment.

650 is silly, I'd maybe pay that for a full keirin bike
 

OGRipper

back alley ripper
Feb 3, 2004
10,659
1,130
NORCAL is the hizzle
With every fad comes opportunists.

But those of you who think riding a fixie = gay have some issues to work out. Not everyone on a fixie started riding them yesterday or because they are fashionable. Homophobic generalizations are stupid to begin with but extending them to bikes is something I wouldn't expect on RM.

(Yeah, I ride a fixie. In SAN FRANCISCO! Hide your poop chutes!)

:plthumbsdown:
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
41,468
13,578
Portland, OR
With every fad comes opportunists.

But those of you who think riding a fixie = gay have some issues to work out.
I don't really think it's gay, I just think it's funny. Manpris don't look good on ANYONE.

Working in downtown Portland, you see A LOT of fixies. I fail to see the point, when a single speed would serve the same purpose, but whatever. The issue is most of the people who ride them here (including my sons friend) ride them purely for the fad of it.

I think they are unnecessarily dangerous when ridden by a sucker with no brakes (see comment about the ruling majority here). I also think it's funny that with the fad comes added un-safety (<-new word) because not only do you run brakeless, but helmetless too in order to be "accepted".

Why do you have to show stupidity to be cool?
 

Secret Squirrel

There is no Justice!
Dec 21, 2004
8,150
1
Up sh*t creek, without a paddle
I don't really think it's gay, I just think it's funny. Manpris don't look good on ANYONE.

Working in downtown Portland, you see A LOT of fixies. I fail to see the point, when a single speed would serve the same purpose, but whatever. The issue is most of the people who ride them here (including my sons friend) ride them purely for the fad of it.

I think they are unnecessarily dangerous when ridden by a sucker with no brakes (see comment about the ruling majority here). I also think it's funny that with the fad comes added un-safety (<-new word) because not only do you run brakeless, but helmetless too in order to be "accepted".

Why do you have to show stupidity to be cool?

Because that's the definition of cool. duh.
 

JRogers

talks too much
Mar 19, 2002
3,785
1
Claremont, CA
I don't really think it's gay, I just think it's funny. Manpris don't look good on ANYONE.

Working in downtown Portland, you see A LOT of fixies. I fail to see the point, when a single speed would serve the same purpose, but whatever. The issue is most of the people who ride them here (including my sons friend) ride them purely for the fad of it.

I think they are unnecessarily dangerous when ridden by a sucker with no brakes (see comment about the ruling majority here). I also think it's funny that with the fad comes added un-safety (<-new word) because not only do you run brakeless, but helmetless too in order to be "accepted".

Why do you have to show stupidity to be cool?
That's my issue with it. For many people out there, it's just about looking cool (which is not a bad thing in and of itself, necessarily...though this comes at the price of safety and, let's be honest, practicality). I don't think I'd get one now simply because there are a few too many toolbags out there with them.
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
41,468
13,578
Portland, OR
That's my issue with it. For many people out there, it's just about looking cool (which is not a bad thing in and of itself, necessarily...though this comes at the price of safety and, let's be honest, practicality). I don't think I'd get one now simply because there are a few too many toolbags out there with them.
I guess I will never see the point. I can understand the single speed "ease of use" thing, but is a freewheel THAT much more expensive? I know brakes are a whopping $20 and weight like 200 grams and all, but are they THAT hard to maintain? (against the argument that fixies are low maintenance)

I'll shut up. I'm not hip and obviously don't "get it".
 

Secret Squirrel

There is no Justice!
Dec 21, 2004
8,150
1
Up sh*t creek, without a paddle
I guess I will never see the point. I can understand the single speed "ease of use" thing, but is a freewheel THAT much more expensive? I know brakes are a whopping $20 and weight like 200 grams and all, but are they THAT hard to maintain? (against the argument that fixies are low maintenance)

I'll shut up. I'm not hip and obviously don't "get it".
Dude...you're not hip and obviously don't get it....


oh....wait....:disgust:
 

Wumpus

makes avatars better
Dec 25, 2003
8,161
153
Six Shooter Junction
I actually got mine to try the track thing, but unfortunately the track is 100 miles* away and they do racing on Friday nights.





*That wouldn't be bad, but I have to go thru the cluster**** that is called Dallas during rushhour.
 

OGRipper

back alley ripper
Feb 3, 2004
10,659
1,130
NORCAL is the hizzle
Fair enough ya'll. There doesn't have to be a "point" to me. Fixies are nothing more or less than one more interesting approach to getting around on two wheels. It's a different, challenging experience, not to mention a great workout, especially in a town with short steep hills like SF. The simplicity is great and it's also a pretty cool way to understand how hardcore the original pro guys were back before a freewheel or gears were an option.

Try it and see for yourself, or don't, your call. Personally I hope I never shy away from a kind of riding because of how someone else looks doing it. If I did that, I wouldn't have much to ride. There are lots of wankers out there on every kind of bike, in every discipline.

PS, I'm not fashionable - I run a front brake AND a helmet.
 

Slugman

Frankenbike
Apr 29, 2004
4,024
0
Miami, FL
Riding a fixie without brakes will make your legs stronger... that is why I got mine 8 years ago.

Doing anything for fashion or to fit in is teh ghey.

But teh gheyest is sitting around judging others just to make yourselves feel superior.
 

Total Heckler

Beer and Bike Enthusiast
Apr 28, 2005
8,171
189
Santa Cruz, CA
Now, if it was a Cabrio.....:busted: :twitch:
AKA Bitch Basket.

I know a bunch a hipsters ride the fixies now. Its honestly near impossible to see a guy riding one without him wearing girl pants, no helmet, and having tragic hair.

OG, I fully agree with you on that. Plenty of tools ride all disciplines of bikes. Doesn't mean you have to be one. I started riding cross a couple years ago and I ride without all of the spandex and whatnot. I normally have my helmet, gloves, shorts, and a t shirt. I stick out like a sore thumb on group rides. Doesn't stop me from keeping up with the group.
 

Thrillkil

Monkey
May 25, 2005
595
0
Isla Vista, CA
I find them pretty fun; it's a refreshing change of pace to go from riding something really complicated i.e. a downhill bike, to something so nice and simple, with a minimum of bike under you.
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
41,468
13,578
Portland, OR
Riding a fixie without brakes will make your legs stronger... that is why I got mine 8 years ago.
I just don't understand the need to run brakeless. There is no law that says you have to use it, but there is a law saying you have to have at least one (or so it is in Portland). I see at as an emergency brake, but again, I'm not cool either.

There was a huge uproar over that here with a particular messenger that refused to put a brake on her fixie to be in compliance of the law saying her legs were brake enough. She was a jackass.
 

blue

boob hater
Jan 24, 2004
10,160
2
california
I just don't understand the need to run brakeless. There is no law that says you have to use it, but there is a law saying you have to have at least one (or so it is in Portland). I see at as an emergency brake, but again, I'm not cool either.

There was a huge uproar over that here with a particular messenger that refused to put a brake on her fixie to be in compliance of the law saying her legs were brake enough. She was a jackass.
A fixie without brakes does not have adequate stopping power in an emergency situation. I know from personal experience and from watching a veteran messenger sideswipe a ped because he couldn't control his stop.
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
41,468
13,578
Portland, OR
A fixie without brakes does not have adequate stopping power in an emergency situation. I know from personal experience and from watching a veteran messenger sideswipe a ped because he couldn't control his stop.
But I bet he looked cool as hell doing it, right?

Sorry, I promise I will shut up on this topic now.

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SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
Sep 21, 2003
66,019
12,927
In a van.... down by the river
Fair enough ya'll. There doesn't have to be a "point" to me. Fixies are nothing more or less than one more interesting approach to getting around on two wheels. It's a different, challenging experience, not to mention a great workout, especially in a town with short steep hills like SF. The simplicity is great and it's also a pretty cool way to understand how hardcore the original pro guys were back before a freewheel or gears were an option.
Dude - you were cool before cool was cool. Which is cool. :thumb:
 

Slugman

Frankenbike
Apr 29, 2004
4,024
0
Miami, FL
I just don't understand the need to run brakeless. There is no law that says you have to use it, but there is a law saying you have to have at least one (or so it is in Portland). I see at as an emergency brake, but again, I'm not cool either.
Sorry - the way I wrote that was misleading.

What I should have said is riding a fixing without USING brakes makes your legs stronger.

I have a brake on mine and it has saved my life at least twice!!!
 

Bearmntpicnic

Monkey
Oct 23, 2005
838
0
charlottesville
Neither of those people.

I ride beakless and worked for the summer as a professional courier. My pants are tight, and I don&#8217;t always ride with a helmet.

You ride beakless because it makes you a better rider. You understand traffic patterns and what you can and cant do. You think about what you are going to do before you do it and you know your limits.

I&#8217;m sure you all as bike riders understand the connection between rider and bike. When you ride bikes like these it become a part of you.

On a side note, I know a guy in SF who rides beakless freewheel which is a little nuts.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
54,643
20,468
Sleazattle
Neither of those people.

I ride beakless and worked for the summer as a professional courier. My pants are tight, and I don’t always ride with a helmet.

You ride beakless because it makes you a better rider. You understand traffic patterns and what you can and cant do. You think about what you are going to do before you do it and you know your limits.

I’m sure you all as bike riders understand the connection between rider and bike. When you ride bikes like these it become a part of you.

On a side note, I know a guy in SF who rides beakless freewheel which is a little nuts.
Pfft. I've never ridden a bike with beaks, even DH.
 

OGRipper

back alley ripper
Feb 3, 2004
10,659
1,130
NORCAL is the hizzle
On a side note, I know a guy in SF who rides beakless freewheel which is a little nuts.
I think it's really funny that you can first say all those other things and then say this. The difference might seem big but it's only a matter of degree.

I agree with some of the things you're saying, and you're entitled to ride whatever you want, but don't try to justify it by claiming it's a matter of skill. Knowing your limits and traffic patterns is all well and good but the time will come when due to someone else's asshattery, nothing but stopping on a dime will save your ass. There will be no go-around option, and no matter how good you are you won't be able to stop fast enough without a front brake. Really. You won't.

In the city I'd rather ride a freewheel'd bike with a front brake than a fixie with no brakes.
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
41,468
13,578
Portland, OR
I think it's really funny that you can first say all those other things and then say this. The difference might seem big but it's only a matter of degree.

I agree with some of the things you're saying, and you're entitled to ride whatever you want, but don't try to justify it by claiming it's a matter of skill. Knowing your limits and traffic patterns is all well and good but the time will come when due to someone else's asshattery, nothing but stopping on a dime will save your ass. There will be no go-around option, and no matter how good you are you won't be able to stop fast enough without a front brake. Really. You won't.

In the city I'd rather ride a freewheel'd bike with a front brake than a fixie with no brakes.
:clapping:

Well played, sir.