Revelation
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You guys decide on what the downtube stickers are going to say yet?
Mmmm, nice!
Always really liked those bikes...can not say I ever did a run on one, but did some extensive parking lot testing and seemed good enough 
, But that bike looks buff and looks killer white. Nice one.
Just run the decals Johnny T style, giant 'PROTOTYPE' down the downtube.
, But that bike looks buff and looks killer white. Nice one.Just run the decals Johnny T style, giant 'PROTOTYPE' down the downtube.
The old-style Karpiel stickers without the black borders might look nice.kidwoo said:You guys decide on what the downtube stickers are going to say yet?
it looks the same as 04,03...
They essentially are, for the time being. There was talk of doing some revisions in later batches. In the meantime, I'm certainly lusting after one of these. 
dude, thats really nice. if the owner of this place is readin over this thread, is there any way I could get in touch with you? I have a 2004 karpiel apocalypse and i would like to possibly buy some replacement parts just for safe keeping. I'm pretty sure these bikes are very similar in terms of the swing arm design and what not. I could be wrong, but yea. If theres any way of me being able to contact you let me know.
despite hating the original company, it really is an elegant design
So this is one of the "new Karpiel's"?
If so, is there any chance of me buying some linkage bearings that wont be munted in 2 months of who ever is doing these baby's?
Providing they are the same as the Disco bearings.
I cant get decent quality bearings in the size needed in New Zealand without paying rediculous money to get them imported specially.
If so, is there any chance of me buying some linkage bearings that wont be munted in 2 months of who ever is doing these baby's?
Providing they are the same as the Disco bearings.
I cant get decent quality bearings in the size needed in New Zealand without paying rediculous money to get them imported specially.
Requesting more pics! 
the nickel looks alot like black crome. nice touch.Dugger43 said:
does nickel plating alter the bearing tolerance at all ? Can i nickel plate my existing linkage and still pop my bearing back in without using a BFH ?
I wouldn't think that it would make any difference - it's just a super-thin coat. Anodized links don't have any trouble, and the nickel plating isnt really any thicker than ano.Jimmy_Pop said:
Man, that frame has aged gracefully. They've been around, but still look great!
The nickle plating does look sick. Even after a year of riding the first ones are still shiny. They were not machined any different that the ano so they did not effect the bearing seating much, but then I don't know what tolerances your plates were made to.
Kidwoo - as you know, they aren't any different really than the original (except press-in bearings rather than bolt-in), and no matter what some people want to say about him personally (he gets whatever he deserves on that front), Jan designed a unique and, in my mind, ahead of its time frame.
The few that were made will all say Karpiel.
Kidwoo - as you know, they aren't any different really than the original (except press-in bearings rather than bolt-in), and no matter what some people want to say about him personally (he gets whatever he deserves on that front), Jan designed a unique and, in my mind, ahead of its time frame.
The few that were made will all say Karpiel.
I'll just add a little "bling-bling" to the logo and maybe change the font..
BTW. Nickel plating is about .0002 thicker that anodize which equates to .0004 smaller on the diameters. A BFP works for the bearing but the barrels my have to be turned down a tad so they don't bind.
BTW. Nickel plating is about .0002 thicker that anodize which equates to .0004 smaller on the diameters. A BFP works for the bearing but the barrels my have to be turned down a tad so they don't bind.
beautiful . Maybe you can send me some of those decals so I can pop em onto my apocalypse frame . Are you guys making extra linkages to sell? I wanna buy some for safe keepings (assuming theyre the same size as the army).
. Maybe you can send me some of those decals so I can pop em onto my apocalypse frame . Are you guys making extra linkages to sell? I wanna buy some for safe keepings (assuming theyre the same size as the army).
congratulations!!!
white one is one of the prettier bikes ive seen and its not finished yet
white one is one of the prettier bikes ive seen and its not finished yet
OMG!!!
I love Karpiels!! I will pack em up on my wall
I have a big army and ive just started building a disco for my girlfriend - will be about 17kg's with avy on back and boxxers up front.
I love those bikes so much... Nothing today can even compare to those...
I love Karpiels!! I will pack em up on my wall
I have a big army and ive just started building a disco for my girlfriend - will be about 17kg's with avy on back and boxxers up front.
I love those bikes so much... Nothing today can even compare to those...
Is the Karpiel site gonna get an update? Someone on MTBR said the domain lease expires next month. Also, Make some 2006 Disco Volante frames
Nicely done...I so want to pick one of those bad boys up...Any update on when production is going to pick up?
Damn those look great!!!!
You got that right...when are they going to make it east?Brian HCM#1 said:
BTW...I'm confused...are they going to be called Revelation or Armageddon? The thread title is throwing me...
The frames look awesome......great job !
Still an Armageddondogwonder said:
That looks awesome !!! BLING to you !!!!
veeeery nice 
Those look sick. If only I had the $$$$.
hey guys any news on the new disco's? mine is kinda out of date hehe, I'd really like a new swing arm with some thru axel and replasable thing for the derauilier (Don't know the name or how it's spelled), some new links would come in handy as well, don't wanna have to change the whole frame, too much money
the Disco is now out of production. It's Armageddons only now.
are you shore? wow thats a real bumer
Right, this may not be the best place to ask this question, but here goes anyway.
Does anyone know for sure which grade alloy a Disco is made from, 6061 or 7005?
I need to know for heat treatment purposes!
Does anyone know for sure which grade alloy a Disco is made from, 6061 or 7005?
I need to know for heat treatment purposes!
Percy said:
its 6061
545deg c for 30 minutes, then quench (jan recommended warm water mist from both sides at the same time) with water or water/glycol, watch for any warping (although since you are going to be re-heat treating, the chances of that happening are a lot lower), then 180 dec celsius for 9 or 10 hours.
i'm pretty sure the proper method uses an oil quench (due to the cooling down rate being critical); sounds like this 'misting' was a way for Jan ghetto-treat his frames not having the proper equipment. Besides the proper cooling rate, you also want uniform cooling of the material, something that 'misting' doesnt exactly seem apt for.vitox said:
zedro said:
zed i think you might be getting overzealous with jan and his methods here, its not like you have someone with a super soaker or a garden hose set to mist, spraying away at the parts, far from it.
i do heat treating at a plant where they routinely do parts for million-dollar mining trucks and machines and they gave me the choice of oil. water, or glycol, another plant had this mist process but werent interested in treating bike frames.
besides, were talking 540 celsius here, its right under melting temperature for aluminium, if you can show me a method of getting a frame to a temperature like that, wihout melting half of them, youd be my hero. jan had his ghetto ways but i dont think this was one of them.