[diesel]

the search for decent cheap steel continues;

I found these two frames for the same price...399$. Both look decent and are in my price range. Which do you guys think would have better overall craftsmanship? Also any comments on geometry etc? Im lookin at the 21". Personally, I think the blizzard might be constructed better due do the in-house creation. However, I like the steeper head angle on the jamis...allows me to run a longer fork and not loose precision.

decisions decisions...

 

[MtnBikerChk]

ROCKY MOUNTAIN!!

I'm biased. Used to ride an element. Great XC bike

 

[MMcG]

What are the tubesets on each frame? I know the Jamis is Reynolds 853 which will be very sweet, not sure about the Blizzard.

I'd say it is a toss up and do with the one that has the right geometry and measurements you are looking for (head tube angle, standover height, top tube length, bottom bracket height, chainstay length etc.)

 

[diesel]

they are both 853 and both have pros and cons to their respective geometry. The question is mainly one of craftsmanship. I know jamis' are made in taiwan and rm's are handmade in canada at the rm factory. This makes me think the rm is going to better overall in terms of welds and alignment pre-coldset.


kinda sounds like my mind is made up...but I wanna hear what you guys think, or maybe hear from any of you who ride one of these two frames.

 

[MMcG]

Go with the Blizzard then! I bet is also has a better paint job than the Jamis in terms of durability.

 

[JRogers]

The Dragon is a sweet frame but the Blizzard is the winner, all else being equal. Always wanted one of those frames....

 

[SuspectDevice]

The Blizzard is one of the nicest forgotten steel hardtails out there. The Jamis is O.K. Fundamentally both bikes are very similar

One is taiwann
One is BC

up to you.