[spocomptonrider]

I am getting into riding road after years of swearing I never would (hey its fun, who new?) and am now on the hunt for a good frame to start on that I won't be wanting to replace in a year or so. So far I have been looking at the Spooky Skeletor (impressive >1000gr frame weight) but I know little about it other than what is mentioned on their web site. I am also considering some form of a Trek but A. few of them are available as frame sets and B. Expensive considering what else is available. Any suggestions would be appreciated, I am specifically looking for a frame because I have a set of Mavic Ksyrium SL wheels and a newer Ultegra grouppo to build it with

I am pretty open to suggestions and only have a few requirements
1. Less than 1800$ for frame fork (Skeletor is 1250$)
2. 1000 grams or less
3. Metal no carbon (except for fork)
4. Prefer new but will go used for the right frame.

Again I am pretty new to this game so I am really just looking for suggestions on what is available/ matches my wants.
Thanks.

 

[GravityFreakTJ]

being as i am a cannondale fanboy i have to throw out a CAAD9 frame set. they ride amazingly well for aluminum and have good power transfer. they are now available with a BB30. pick up used one's dirt cheap on fleabay

 

[SuspectDevice]

The Cannondales and our bikes (Spooky) are not just two of the best frames on the market... period, and two of the best values... They are also the only 2 production aluminum frames that are built in the U.S.

There are lots of really nice asian-built Steel frames in your price range from a myriad of manufacturers... They will tend to have better geometry than "less-expensive" aluminum frames, most of which, these days are aimed at the "comfort" or recreational road market.

I'd stay away from bikes with carbon stays... If you want durability, reliability and crash-proofness, buying a bike that is made compltetely out of metal is a great start.

 

[ire]

They are also the only 2 production aluminum frames that are built in the U.S.

I thought Cannondale dropped all US manufacturing?

 

[-dustin]

CAAD9 BB30 w/ SI cranks

or

Spooky

 

[-dustin]

I thought Cannondale dropped all US manufacturing?

CAADs will move overseas for the 2011 model year.

 

[blue]

How's the CAAD9/Spooky compare to a late-model Klein Quantum?

Them's is dirt cheap used...about to build one up with my Campy group, and possibly race in a crit in a couple weeks. SO EXCITED!!!

 

[spocomptonrider]

The Cannondales and our bikes (Spooky) are not just two of the best frames on the market... period, and two of the best values... They are also the only 2 production aluminum frames that are built in the U.S.

There are lots of really nice asian-built Steel frames in your price range from a myriad of manufacturers... They will tend to have better geometry than "less-expensive" aluminum frames, most of which, these days are aimed at the "comfort" or recreational road market.

I'd stay away from bikes with carbon stays... If you want durability, reliability and crash-proofness, buying a bike that is made compltetely out of metal is a great start.

I am pretty much sold on the Skeletor, amazing bike especially for the price and it looks great as well. I only wish there was a dealer round these parts. What are your requirements for becoming a dealer? I ride DH for a shop that just opened and only has one brand at the moment, I'm sure he can't afford the overhead to bring any other big brands in, but he is interested in bringing smaller 'boutique' brands in. But if I have to order it from you guys no biggie.
-edit- 14 pound road bikes with alu frames!? My head might explode.

 

[ire]

How's the CAAD9/Spooky compare to a late-model Klein Quantum?

Them's is dirt cheap used...about to build one up with my Campy group, and possibly race in a crit in a couple weeks. SO EXCITED!!!

I've owned a Klein road bike and mountain bike....they are ridiculously stiff and consequently a rough ride.

 

[GravityFreakTJ]

if saving sme money is important to you the CAAD 9 frames can be had off of ebay for 300 bucks or so

 

[CBJ]

300 for a nice alu frame like that is a killer deal.

 

[James]

if saving sme money is important to you the CAAD 9 frames can be had off of ebay for 300 bucks or so

Really? Where? Show me a 58!


like I need another bike...

 

[splat]

like I need another bike...

You Always need another bike! that goes with out saying.


the N+1 rule you know

 

[James]

You Always need another bike! that goes with out saying.


the N+1 rule you know

Tell me about it. We just got our new CX bikes into stock, and my coworker immediately started in on me about how I needed one...they are pretty damn hot, I will admit. The SS one especially.
Maybe I'll sell the fixie I started building up...anybody want to buy an upgraded Felt Curbside in 58cm?

 

[GravityFreakTJ]

Really? Where? Show me a 58!


like I need another bike...

well there is the one i just sold.....

 

[MMcG]

If one were to buy a $300 Cannondale frame on ebay - where would one go to outfit it with a grouppo at a price in line with the price paid for the frame???

 

[GravityFreakTJ]

If one were to buy a $300 Cannondale frame on ebay - where would one go to outfit it with a grouppo at a price in line with the price paid for the frame???

you can pick up a used UltegraSL group for 500~600 if ya lok hard enugh. there is a complete grup for sale on Serotta forum right now for 550 i think.

 

[James]

well there is the one i just sold.....

Curses!

But I have an alloy bike currently anyway. Two if you count the scandium one.

 

[ire]

...anybody want to buy an upgraded Felt Curbside in 58cm?

If only I was taller...

 

[James]

If only I was taller...

Shin splints?
Pedal blocks?

I need to have a garage sale soon either way. I bought too many bikes this year...or to word it better, I owe my company more money than I would prefer at the moment.

 

[maddog17]

Tell me about it. We just got our new CX bikes into stock, and my coworker immediately started in on me about how I needed one...they are pretty damn hot, I will admit. The SS one especially.
Maybe I'll sell the fixie I started building up...anybody want to buy an upgraded Felt Curbside in 58cm?

Felt is making a Stainless CX bike? is that what you meant by SS?

check out GVHbikes.com he usually has some nice deals on framesets. last time i checked he was selling a DeRosa New Primato steel frameset for like $1900 which is a pretty good deal. he carries Viner too and those are usually $1000 and less in either steel or alu. nothing against Spooky, if that's what you like then go for it. just giving out another option. what size are you? i'm selling my steel Wojcik if you need a 59cm.

 

[-dustin]

SS = Singlespeed

 

[blue]

Shin splints?
Pedal blocks?

I need to have a garage sale soon either way. I bought too many bikes this year...or to word it better, I owe my company more money than I would prefer at the moment.

I'm presently taking wheel donations. Specifically ones with freehubs that start in Camp and end in nolo.

 

[James]

I'm presently taking wheel donations. Specifically ones with freehubs that start in Camp and end in nolo.

I have a set of brand new Campy Zonda wheels, coincidentally with Vredestein Fortezza SE tires mounted on them. Unfortunately they're not scheduled for donation.

 

[GravityFreakTJ]

I need to have a garage sale soon either way

give me a pre-sale call homeslice

 

[blue]

I have a set of brand new Campy Zonda wheels, coincidentally with Vredestein Fortezza SE tires mounted on them. Unfortunately they're not scheduled for donation.

What do I have to do to get sponsored by James@Felt? Carry more trashcans full of beer?

 

[James]

What do I have to do to get sponsored by James@Felt? Carry more trashcans full of beer?

I came across some of those pictures the other day, I was cracking up. "
99 cents for a 6-pack?"
"Um, yeah, I thought it was a great deal too!"

I'd love to be able to hook a brotha up, but honestly I've got to pay off some other bike debt, so I can continue to buy new bikes.

 

[James]

give me a pre-sale call homeslice

Whatchoo lookin' for?

 

[GravityFreakTJ]

Whatchoo lookin' for?

kinda looking for a non-race bike to add to the stable. btw ...picked up some wheels off of a TT bike that have some pretty lil Felt decals on em

 

[James]

kinda looking for a non-race bike to add to the stable. btw ...picked up some wheels off of a TT bike that have some pretty lil Felt decals on em

Sweet. I'll take a look this weekend hopefully and figure out what's going and what's staying.
TT wheels eh? Tubular or clincher? We do a lot of that stuff, have some pretty neat wheels on one of the AR bikes this year. "This year" meaning 2010 of course.

 

[GravityFreakTJ]

the Flash Point version of the 404/808....maybe just maybe i wont break these ?

 

[James]

the Flash Point version of the 404/808....maybe just maybe i wont break these ?

Maybe, maybe not.
You should get the Clydesdale build, or the "super stiff" laminate on your next Zipps then. That might fix it.
Then again, maybe it's you. There are about 90% of the guys here who ride Zipp tubies as their everyday wheels, and I've seen a couple broken ones, but nothing just "failed."

 

[splat]

Really? Where? Show me a 58!


like I need another bike...

58 is My size


"Wink Wink , Nudge Nudge "

 

[blue]

I came across some of those pictures the other day, I was cracking up. "
99 cents for a 6-pack?"
"Um, yeah, I thought it was a great deal too!"

I'd love to be able to hook a brotha up, but honestly I've got to pay off some other bike debt, so I can continue to buy new bikes.

I'm not sure what was more hilarious, the fact that Don was able to pull off the dollar six-pack (with a paper inkjet fake ID, no less) or six dudes, two big garbage cans of beer and ice, and 4-5 bikes rolling from Monterey to Laguna Seca in a 2-door Volkswagen hatchback...

If you ever need to unload Campy wheels cheap, I'm your man!

 

[splat]

If you ever need to unload Campy wheels cheap, I'm your man!

or anything campy

 

[James]

I'm not sure what was more hilarious, the fact that Don was able to pull off the dollar six-pack (with a paper inkjet fake ID, no less) or six dudes, two big garbage cans of beer and ice, and 4-5 bikes rolling from Monterey to Laguna Seca in a 2-door Volkswagen hatchback...

If you ever need to unload Campy wheels cheap, I'm your man!

Not to mention talking our way into free parking.

That poor GTI, it suffered so much in such great pursuits.
Trunk racks FTW! I'll try to dig up those photos and post 'em up...

 

[blue]

Not to mention talking our way into free parking.

That poor GTI, it suffered so much in such great pursuits.
Trunk racks FTW! I'll try to dig up those photos and post 'em up...

I think I've got a couple kicking around...

 

[James]

58 is My size


"Wink Wink , Nudge Nudge "

Need a frame?

 

[maddog17]

SS = Singlespeed

i had a brain fart for that one and it wasn't until this morning that it came to me

 

[GravityFreakTJ]

Maybe, maybe not.
You should get the Clydesdale build, or the "super stiff" laminate on your next Zipps then. That might fix it.
Then again, maybe it's you. There are about 90% of the guys here who ride Zipp tubies as their everyday wheels, and I've seen a couple broken ones, but nothing just "failed."

dude its hilarious you say get the Clydesdale build, im 6ft1 and 155lbs
but that may be what i need