Sam hill turning technique
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but thats the only turn he rode like this... not the best body-postion 
not a typical cornering stance though; that frame was taken right after a big compression (note the sacked out rear susp), pushing him over the back.
The best part is that he immediately shifted his weight forward, took a crank, threw a little dirt, and kept it in complete control.
sam hill could race the would cup on fully rigid bike with road slicks and still pin it.
why would you want to turn like sam hill? why not have your own style and rip it up. personally that "style" in that pic is super ugly lol i dont think he ment to make it look like that.
o ok, i was gonna say. alot of kids want to be just like sam hill and want to have the exact bike and all. its just annoying i mean dont get me wrong the kid has amazing skills and i give him mad props for winning so many races at a young age. but i just feel like people buy iron horse bc they wanna ride like sam hill.
here I was thinking the dw*link was suppose to take care of all the turning. maybe that's why I crash so much?
No, thats the Maker's Mark.....maybe that's why I crash so much?
but thats the only turn he rode like this... not the best body-postion
to tell you the truth, when barel came storming down, I could only wish he would beat sam to make it all that more interesting and fun, it's getting boring that the same guy wins every race
i dont really care about the way sam turns, but the way he hit that specific berm compared to everyone else was absurd. check the freecaster videos, everyone else was foot out, sliding around. sam just slammed into it full speed, didnt slide around, didnt lose control for a second. i honestly dont understand.
Nah. They buy Iron Horse because of bomb-proof build and the top-notch linkage.
DW > Anything else.
bwahaha! Sorry. Carry on...
Yes, heaven forbid anyone win that actually deserves it.to tell you the truth, when barel came storming down, I could only wish he would beat sam to make it all that more interesting and fun, it's getting boring that the same guy wins every race
When someone brings the skill, determination, focus, and discipline on race day that puts them on top of the podium, then they deserve the win. I don't care how many times they win.
can anyone say "sunday slop"? (this has been addressed in newer versions). nice bikes, not my cup of tea.
Which DVD is this from?!
...ben trying to remember but can't seem to place it...
...ben trying to remember but can't seem to place it...
I want to say Clict or something.Which DVD is this from?!
...ben trying to remember but can't seem to place it...
The most noticeable thing about the way sam rides is how little he moves around on the bike. People tend to think going fast means pumping everything, mashing the pedals, and throwing the bike around. This certainly looks fast, and for some it is. But I think the key to his cornering skills and confidence is how little hes moving around. Its much easier to predict what the bike is going to do when you aren't going all whilly nilly all over the cockpit. Sometimes you have to go slower to go faster....
yup...Clict 2
It pisses me of that he is so hyped about but the way he rides is unreal. Hate the one foot cornering that is overused by the other pros but that's maybe because I haven't ridden flats for like 11 years (and now I'm getting a dirt bike )
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From what I've seen, Sam only uses that cornering technique in wet conditions when he is coming in too hot. He does the exact same thing in Champery, a massive shift of weight to the rear wheel at the last moment, in anticipation of it breaking loose as he enters the corner. Only in Champery, it is not effective, and he crashes. However, watching the footage from that, I think it may have saved him from going over the berm and completely off course.
may i ask whats wrong with the 08 glory??Nah. They buy Iron Horse because of bomb-proof build and the top-notch linkage.
DW > Anything else.
and also im not naggin on sam winning all the time. theres a reason why he wins so much. he is just good. also he wants to win and is very focused. anyone of those riders could have beatin him. it just comes down to training, practice and the mental stage. so like i said mad props to sam its just annoyin how so many people wanna ride a sunday bc of him and how good he does.
His form is awesome and most the times i've seen him ride very efficient,
Sam over cooked this corner and just about threw the race away though...if he had to do it over i'm sure he would have backed off a bit. he was visibly faster then Fabian, but only up by less then a second at the split. Fabian was much smoother.
I think Sam left a bit on the course this finals run, from the little footage i've seen it wasn't the type of run like last year where you knew no one would be close.
thats what worlds is about though getting the job done under pressure....i think there was a true chance for another rider to beat that time but they just couldn't get it done.
With each win it will get harder for others... Sam really is building steam like a locomotive, i think a lot of the guys expect miracle runs from Sam now and that is half the battle.
Sam over cooked this corner and just about threw the race away though...if he had to do it over i'm sure he would have backed off a bit. he was visibly faster then Fabian, but only up by less then a second at the split. Fabian was much smoother.
I think Sam left a bit on the course this finals run, from the little footage i've seen it wasn't the type of run like last year where you knew no one would be close.
thats what worlds is about though getting the job done under pressure....i think there was a true chance for another rider to beat that time but they just couldn't get it done.
With each win it will get harder for others... Sam really is building steam like a locomotive, i think a lot of the guys expect miracle runs from Sam now and that is half the battle.
I really love to hate all the sammy wanna be's. I loved to see them all representin' on their green sundays, and laugh at them. Then I rode a sunday for a few runs, after I got over bashing the pedals on everyting, I had to have one. In my opinion its really a great bike. And I still want to hate it.
It weighs 6 pounds more, is as fugly as fugly can get, has screwed up sizing, stack heights are best described as "WTF?" and Maestro is generally considered to be a copy of the DW-Link.
I'm sure they ride nice but I'd rather have my Sunday weighing in at 40 than a Glory weighing 46.
i did one of those by accident once and rode it out. it was ****ing sweet. i actually somehow kept both feet on the pedals too.
that's all i have to contribute.
yeah, why does giant have a solid steel axle?!?!!? WTF?!?!....just plain dumb.....wouldn't it be cheaper to machine an alu one?.....less wear on the bits that are machining it and it would save a good pound!
Not if your Australian...
Oi oi oi...
Exactly. I read somewhere those axles weigh 1.5 pounds in themselves!!!!!
err....perhaps that was you Ian?
redickerish.
I believe this is the sort of photo we all really want to see of Sam shredding a corner to pieces...
That particular corner in his finals run did however have me rewinding and replaying it several times over, so much speed carried in compared to everyone else and so much seemingly effortless smashing of it.
That particular corner in his finals run did however have me rewinding and replaying it several times over, so much speed carried in compared to everyone else and so much seemingly effortless smashing of it.
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Thank you, I thought it was just me. I watched both runs and was surprised Sam was faster. I know some of the great ones make it look easy but still, looked like he was on autopilot or something whereas Barel looked focused and more aggressive. Can't deny the result, of course.
As for the comment about the same guy winning, this would have been Barel's 3rd rainbow jersey but it's only Sam's second - so far.
I am 40 and I race a Sunday because it's a dam good bike. This "Sundays are uncool, because so many people think they are cool" is more annoying then some kid wanting to be like Sam Hill. Trust me I look back on my life and realize that it's okay to want to be like somebody that is good.
What is the Sam Hill is he doing?
interesting take on the clip from worlds. he came into that turn way too hot and this awesome technique you seem to be speaking of is actually him saving himself from blowing right through the corner after coming in too hot and under breaking. not his normal technique. to see that check out the mtbcut.tv highlights from practice, there is a shot looking down into that corner and he absolutely demolishes it and wheelies out.
the race run shot is a fine example though of how much skill he does have to compensate for what was a potentially big mistake. when i saw it live i though he was going to hit the deck for sure.
the race run shot is a fine example though of how much skill he does have to compensate for what was a potentially big mistake. when i saw it live i though he was going to hit the deck for sure.
What?