http://freecaster.com/1000006_1004398
Or do I need to ask some friends back home in the UK for access to their work VPNs?
Or do I need to ask some friends back home in the UK for access to their work VPNs?
So, will this work in North America this year? (Live World Cup)
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You will need a proxy. I am lead producer for the Freecaster World Cup and MTB coverage this year. I put the entire program together from scratch, in fact, I proposed the idea to them. It is a HUGE endeavour with over 30 000 euro already spent.
WCSN owns the EXCLUSIVE rights to UCI coverage in the USA (not Canada), MTB, road, cyclocross etc. They had some sketchy contract with the UCI and the UCI person in charge went to work for them 2 weeks later, Surprise! They have not EVER broadcast a MTB event as far as I know and have tried to sue freecaster multiple times.
We will have tape delayed packages for the USA from every event as we are allowed a certain amount of minutes of footage from each event as per UCI regs.
Coverage starts 1 week Wednesday in Maribor, Slovenia. 4x and Dh will be live outside the USA. There will also be live chat (even if you cannot see the video). There will be daily packages each day of the events (wed-sunday usually). On off days or travel days we will sometimes have interviews or "pro bike" tech segments filmed the week before.
WCSN owns the EXCLUSIVE rights to UCI coverage in the USA (not Canada), MTB, road, cyclocross etc. They had some sketchy contract with the UCI and the UCI person in charge went to work for them 2 weeks later, Surprise! They have not EVER broadcast a MTB event as far as I know and have tried to sue freecaster multiple times.
We will have tape delayed packages for the USA from every event as we are allowed a certain amount of minutes of footage from each event as per UCI regs.
Coverage starts 1 week Wednesday in Maribor, Slovenia. 4x and Dh will be live outside the USA. There will also be live chat (even if you cannot see the video). There will be daily packages each day of the events (wed-sunday usually). On off days or travel days we will sometimes have interviews or "pro bike" tech segments filmed the week before.
i don't see why it wouldn't work.
sweet? not totaly understand but ya
Nothin' but quality clips.
Will the clips be awesomeness with smooches?
WCSN is showing World Cup mountain biking on their upcoming schedule, not that I would pay those butt pirates one stinking devalued American somolian.
http://web.wcsn.com/sport/index.jsp?id=34009
Anyone willing to cough up the 5 bucks for a monthly, just to see if Maribor is shown?
http://web.wcsn.com/sport/index.jsp?id=34009
Anyone willing to cough up the 5 bucks for a monthly, just to see if Maribor is shown?
They do? This is the first season if so, I am guessing XC only right?
And ya, they charge for all of their coverage. There is also blackout conditions, so you may want to check on those before you drop the $.
And ya, they charge for all of their coverage. There is also blackout conditions, so you may want to check on those before you drop the $.
Ya, WCSN....I paid for their worlds coverage because it read as being live...it was not.
Ok, so, they may show all those races on their cycling 'schedule' but they don't freaking cover all of them, according to their actual broadcast schedule. What douchebags.
http://web.wcsn.com/schedule/main.jsp
http://web.wcsn.com/schedule/main.jsp
Unfortunately we have one more year of their shenanigans, and then it looks like another party will own the rights. One who plans on actually using them. One more year to tough out.
I can guarantee that while our coverage will not be live to the USA (proxy *cough) we will have fantastic coverage tape delayed all week from every major event. We have hired some of the top MTB videographers to work with us and film MTB the way it should be. Look for Lutze, Schroth, Patterson etc to be doing a crack up job.
I can guarantee that while our coverage will not be live to the USA (proxy *cough) we will have fantastic coverage tape delayed all week from every major event. We have hired some of the top MTB videographers to work with us and film MTB the way it should be. Look for Lutze, Schroth, Patterson etc to be doing a crack up job.
this is awsome !! will dh qualifing runs be shown also ??
Such good news
Such good news
Whatever is being broadcast by the UCI is what we will be showing live. This is due to the way it must be sent to the satellite etc. I believe the UCI only does finals for both DH and 4X. I should have all of that info on paper this week (broadcast times etc).
google it, it's super easy. I watched the Worlds live last year. Just make sure it's an international server
Search the 07 fort william worlds thread, was a crap ton of posts on getting it to air live (proxy crap).
I never got it working for DH, but did get to see 4x live as Lopes won again
How's the quality/streaming going to be with this?
I was trying to wash the qasqhi competiion on freecaster when it was live and it was super stuttery, mono audio, and didn't look all that great
I was trying to wash the qasqhi competiion on freecaster when it was live and it was super stuttery, mono audio, and didn't look all that great
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god, not this BS again... I'd pony up the cash to WCSN if they'd actually show it live, but to sit on the footage and not broadcast it is completely ridiculous.
Knowing there is a way to watch it but not being able to is worse than not being able to watch it. Someone needs to hook up a live feed on RM or run a thread about where and when and we'll be there.
The quality will be excellent. It is a flash h.264 feed. Ie: Very good. We did the redbull moto freestyle stuff form mexico city a few weeks ago and it was the first time that h.264 had been streamed via flash, in HD.
Stik can vouch for how good it was. The event was super boring but we kept watching it because the quality was so damn good.
Mikemac: WCSN's online rights expire after this season. I have a feeling that the UCI might look a little harder before they simply give away exclusive rights in the future! The only exclusive rights sold were online in the USA. A local host broadcaster can still go live to air, just not online.
Stik can vouch for how good it was. The event was super boring but we kept watching it because the quality was so damn good.
Mikemac: WCSN's online rights expire after this season. I have a feeling that the UCI might look a little harder before they simply give away exclusive rights in the future! The only exclusive rights sold were online in the USA. A local host broadcaster can still go live to air, just not online.
are you streaming it via flash or will there be a windows media player streamer(mtbcut.tv for example)
are you both using the same source?
are you both using the same source?
It will be streamed via Flash with h.264 compression. This is as good as it gets for streaming video right now. We can do full HD quality if need be.
Our source for the live broadcasts is the host broadcaster TV stream, with our own commentary. We have a commentator hired to do all WCs, as most host broadcasters do not have an english audio stream (ie: Slovenia in a week). For worlds we have a crew of 5 cameras + host broadcaster, our own commentator etc.
Our source for all non live broadcasts (the daily packages all week) is our own crew.
I am not sure what stream MTBcut will be using or what format they will be in, sorry. I do know that in the few years they have been around, I have never actually gotten their player to work on my mac so I cannot comment either way.
Our source for the live broadcasts is the host broadcaster TV stream, with our own commentary. We have a commentator hired to do all WCs, as most host broadcasters do not have an english audio stream (ie: Slovenia in a week). For worlds we have a crew of 5 cameras + host broadcaster, our own commentator etc.
Our source for all non live broadcasts (the daily packages all week) is our own crew.
I am not sure what stream MTBcut will be using or what format they will be in, sorry. I do know that in the few years they have been around, I have never actually gotten their player to work on my mac so I cannot comment either way.
ya...if the feed/footage/footy/quality clips/etc
is anywhere as good as the lame FMX comp in mexico I watched on freecaster, MTBing's comeback will be sooner than we expected.
is anywhere as good as the lame FMX comp in mexico I watched on freecaster, MTBing's comeback will be sooner than we expected.
so will mtbcut.tv have the U.S. sorted? i hope so.
their pr:
Mountain Bike World Cup Live on MTBcut
In what is arguably one of the biggest steps that the sports of Downhill and 4X mountain biking has ever seen MTBcut.tv has announced that they are to screen rounds of the UCI Mountain bike World Cup live on the internet.
Following the huge success of the live online broadcast at last years World Championships from Fort William MTBcut.tv, together with the UCI, decided to continue the progression by developing live streaming of rounds of the 2008 World Cup. The first live event will the coverage of the first Downhill and 4X events on the World Cup Calendar from Maribor, Slovenia on the weekend of the 10th/11th May 2008.
As well as the live race broadcast MTBcut.tv will also have top Downhill Videographer John Lawlor on hand to bring the latest action and breaking news from around the pits at the event.
On the release of the news of the live broadcast Stu Thomson, the rider and videographer behind MTBcut.tv said, “this is surely one of the biggest moves ever for the growth in promotion and success of our sport. Last year’s World Championship coverage proved that there is a massive international enthusiasm for live coverage of our sport and now this move will allow the growth and development of Downhill and 4X to continue.”
For more news of the live times and coverage, and also the latest race and mountain bike lifestyle videos click on to www.mtbcut.tv
their pr:
Mountain Bike World Cup Live on MTBcut
In what is arguably one of the biggest steps that the sports of Downhill and 4X mountain biking has ever seen MTBcut.tv has announced that they are to screen rounds of the UCI Mountain bike World Cup live on the internet.
Following the huge success of the live online broadcast at last years World Championships from Fort William MTBcut.tv, together with the UCI, decided to continue the progression by developing live streaming of rounds of the 2008 World Cup. The first live event will the coverage of the first Downhill and 4X events on the World Cup Calendar from Maribor, Slovenia on the weekend of the 10th/11th May 2008.
As well as the live race broadcast MTBcut.tv will also have top Downhill Videographer John Lawlor on hand to bring the latest action and breaking news from around the pits at the event.
On the release of the news of the live broadcast Stu Thomson, the rider and videographer behind MTBcut.tv said, “this is surely one of the biggest moves ever for the growth in promotion and success of our sport. Last year’s World Championship coverage proved that there is a massive international enthusiasm for live coverage of our sport and now this move will allow the growth and development of Downhill and 4X to continue.”
For more news of the live times and coverage, and also the latest race and mountain bike lifestyle videos click on to www.mtbcut.tv
MTBcut will NOT be live to the US. They are under the same constraints as freecaster. WCSN can and will sue anyone infringing on the exclusive us broadcast rights. (They have already in the past).
seems the 'cut' is lying in their PR.
Anyone looking to express some displeasure about the lack of WC coverage in the US: feedback@website.wcsn.com
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Don't bother, it just makes them come down harder on freecaster and mtbcut. Their rights are up at the end of this season, and from what I understand, exclusive MTB will not be renewed.
can someone please pm me a server address and port number. The one I had doesn't work anymore, Dammit
http://www.swissvpn.net/ <-- should help 
The fact that UCI granted rights to live coverage without a clause that they had to show it live or they lost said exclusive coverage gets a HUGE
lthumbsdown: for the UCI in my book. Who can I voice my displeasure to the UCI to? Already sent off a few letters last year to WCSN last year, and that was relatively worthless...