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Soul Cycles Dillinger - Long Term RM 29er Bike Review

MMcG

Ride till you puke!
Dec 10, 2002
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Burlington, Connecticut
Last fall I got in touch with Chad Bonfiglio at Soul Cycles www.ridesoul.com (new site to launch real soon) about doing a long term test of their new Soul Cycles Dillinger 29er hardtail and Chad was gracious enough to send me a test sled to thrash about the woods of CT. Here is my report on this value packed 29er hardtail after several months throwing a leg over the bike.

The frame and parts:

The frame size that was sent to me is Soul's 16" Dillinger which features a 74 degree seat tube angle, 23" effective top tube length and a 71 degree head tube angle. The frames are designed around a 100mm suspension fork. In addition to the frame, I was sent a Reba Race with poploc and one of Soul Cycles own rigid 29er forks which is corrected for a 100mm suspension forks. The build list also consisted of nice FSA bits (stem, seatpost,cranks) and a nice SDG ibeam seatpost and SDG Belair Saddle, Avid Juicy 5 disc brakes and to round things out a very nice and light American Classic 29er wheelset paired up to some WTB Exiwolf tires.

The bike built up into a nice ride and I rode it in every configuration possible including rigid single speed, singlespeed with fork, 1x9 rigid and with Reba, and 3x9 rigid and with Reba. Pretty damned versatile which can be a plus in many people's minds.

The Dillinger frame sports an eccentric bottom bracket + cable hangers etc. so that it can be run single speed or geared. It ships with single speed drpout dropout and a derailleur hanger dropout which are easily swapped out with three screws. The frame is also set up to run V or disc brakes, with
the V brake hangers completely removable. All in all it is a versatile
frame in a well finished package. The welds on the frame are very nice and the paint is a really sharp candy apple green that has held up very well too our rooty rocky east coast terrain.

The Dillinger is set up with a set screw eccentric bottom bracket. I greased up the set screws and torqued it down and have
had no issues with it creaking either in SS mode or as a geared bike. It is very easy to adjust the bottom bracket position with this ebb and also it was easy to dial in a nice straight chainline in single speed configuration. Again, a lot of value and versatility through the use of the eccentric bottom bracket on this frame.

Side view:





Chainstays are sort of "flattened" out a la Salsa's:





Nice chainstay yoke:





From up top at an angle:






The Ride:



As I mentioned earlier, I have ridden the Dillinger in pretty much every configuration possible. At first I was leary of the Alumnium frame riding harshly, but I have to say, it didn't feel harsh at all. I'll go over the ride in the various modes for you guys and gals now.

Single speed and rigid = a fun lightweight bike. The rigid Soul Cycles fork is a great value at only around $40 or so and it soaked up trail chatter nicely for the pricepoint it sells at. Perhaps the curved unicrown shape of the fork has something to do with that effect. The ebb offers great flexibility for adjusting and dialining in a good tight and straight chainline. I did find the long chainstays to be a small issue on the con side for our type of east coast terrain. If you weren't careful with your body positioning in SS mode, the rear wheel would have a tendency to loose traction and spin out a bit. But if you kept really good focus on your body position it was manageable just fine. Shorter stays for these parts = better for SS. This may not hold true for other parts of the country however (think midwest for example).

Single speed and suspended - Nice - the poploc on the Reba is a great plus for this type of set up. With that said, I think I prefer rigid and single speed for some reason. Not to say SS and suspended is bad, just seems like rigid and SS go hand in hand with 29" wheels.

1x9 and Rigid - this turned out to be a really fun set up for this bike. With the 1x9 configuration I was able to sit and pedal for more climbs yet I could still really let the bike rip on descents. The rigid fork tracked great and the bike was very fast and very stable on long downhill stretches of trail. Rear tire traction seemed improved over the Single speed set up - probably because I was able to keep a little more weight on the rear wheel due to the fact that I didn't have to get up to stand and climb as often.

1x9 with Reba - This was mighty nice. The Reba soaked up the roots and rocks and the 1x9 drivetrain gave me the gears I needed to ride just about anything I'm capable of riding. Again the bike was super fast and super stable on the flats and on descents and still climbed well and handled tight turns just fine as well even with the Reba with less offset than the rigid fork up front. I found myself clearing tricky sections of my "regular" loop easily in this set up - especially one area that plagued me over and over on multiple different bikes in the past.

In addition, I paired the bike up with some Syncros 29er wheels for these 1x9 rides and wow it really transformed the bike from a more XC oriented machine with the Am Classics to a true trail bike hardtail with the Syncros wheels. These wheels feature deep wide rims and nice efficient hubs. Pair them up with some meaty tires and blammo - you've got one helluva nice trail bike set up. :thumb: Don't get me wrong, the Am Classic wheels have been great, but these Syncros wheels changed the character of the bike (again it shows that one frame can be versatile with different components thrown into the mix).









3x9 Rigid - I used this set up to do a 50 Mile MS Bike tour ride on the bike. I threw on some Bontrager Hybrid tires and let her roll 3x9 and she worked great. Comfy and no worries about flat tires over rough road conditions. Overall this worked out fine for the Bike Tour. Maybe slightly different gearing would have made it even better but it got the job done.






On the trails - this was a nice set up too - however I did find the big ring to be a nuisance at times as it would get hung up on log crossings and whatnot. I think two rings and a bashguard is just the way to go around here unless you are truly using the bike for racing duty.



3x9 with Reba- Fast, stable, fun - those are the words that sum up the ride in this configuration. I was able to tackle some pretty long and tough rock gardens with this set up with no problems whatsoever - that was a plus. I think the combination of the various gears I could choose along with the rollover ability of the 29er hoops and the ability to ride harder with some suspension up front was the right mix of ingredients to handle these types of technical stretches of terrain.

Conclusion:
In my opinion the Soul Cycles Dillinger 29er is a great value. The price (currently still under $300) for the frame and fork are excellent and fall below other AL hardtails like the Astrix Rook and the EMD9 but the ride quality doesn't convey the low price. The bike features good solid welds, very nice paint (in addition to green it comes in a pearl white or yellow). The rigid fork is also a real bargain as it offers a pretty compliant ride for the low pricepoint. A great stand alone option for those looking to try out riding rigid.

The AL frame did not ride harshly at all. Perhaps the somewhat "flattened out" chainstays have something to do with this, or perhaps it is the 29er wheels - maybe a combination of the two.

Climbing prowess - The bike is a better climber in geared mode than in Single Speed mode due to the long chainstays, but with that said it isn't a horrible climber as a single speed

Descending- The bike is fast, fun and stable at speed. I found myself really hauling ass on it and it provided many big grins! I could only imagine how much of a blast it would be out on long flowing singletrack descents out west - it'd be a total hoot I suspect.

Handling - for a bike designed around a 100mm fork, I found the Dillinger to be a solid handling bike. It never really felt like a "barge" - quite the opposite. It helped me clear some tricky techy stuff on my regular loop and to me that's something to point out and mention! Overall I'd say it handles better as a geared bike than a SS (the rear would tend to get light on techy climbs), but it is no slouch in SS mode either.

I gotta say if you are looking for a high value/great bang for your buck 29er hardtail frame or frame and fork combo - the Dillinger should definitely be on your list of frames to consider.

I welcome your comments and questions and other Dillinger owners feel free to chime in with your thoughts.

Cheers,

Mark
 
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MMcG

Ride till you puke!
Dec 10, 2002
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Burlington, Connecticut
Couple of additional random thoughts on the frame:

1. The sloping top tube is mighty nice. Makes for a comfortable cockpit and make it real easy to get on and off the bike in techy situations.

2. The geared dropout is fairly substantial which is also a plus. Very easy to swap between the dropout with derailleur hanger and the SS specific one. Cool feature in my mind.

3. Chad at Soul is a good guy and great to deal with. He always promply answered my questions pre-review and while I was riding and setting up the bike in the various set ups that I rode it in - good stuff.
 

Toddre

Chimp
Oct 23, 2007
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Good Ole CT
Hey, unfortunately I didn't get alot of time riding with you and the Dillinger (although I did wrench it a couple of times....).
How was the ride quality of the Easton tubing compared to some of the other material choices you've been lucky enough to try (Steel and Ti)?
 

MMcG

Ride till you puke!
Dec 10, 2002
15,457
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Burlington, Connecticut
Hey, unfortunately I didn't get alot of time riding with you and the Dillinger (although I did wrench it a couple of times....).
How was the ride quality of the Easton tubing compared to some of the other material choices you've been lucky enough to try (Steel and Ti)?

How about this - I'll compare it to other AL frames I've ridden.

I owned a different Soul hardtail briefly - the Soul Cycles Hardline (sort of a Chameleon clone) and that was a very harsh riding AL frame

I also owned a Niner EMD nine that rode just fine for an AL hardtail.

I'd have to say that there was no real harshness of ride at all with the Dillinger. Weight was reasonable too in my opinion. It came in around 4.5 pounds with ebb. Not as light as an EMD, but not porky by any means in my opinion.

Perhaps the long flattened out chainstays helped with ride compliance on this particular frame as I never felt like I was getting battered about while riding the bike.

Also to note - on a few rides the frame did take some pretty hard and loud hits from sizeable loose rocks on the trail. I found no dings or dents as a result so it isn't a flimsy beer can type of frame either.

Again I think the strong point of this frame is the bang for the buck value it holds.
 

MMcG

Ride till you puke!
Dec 10, 2002
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Burlington, Connecticut
If you call in currently they are still offering intro promotional pricing at $245.00 for the frame, but that may change once the new site goes live. But right now it is a sub $300 frame.
 
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urbaindk

The Real Dr. Science
Jul 12, 2004
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I just recieved a new generation Hooligan (the 26" version of the Dillinger) as a warranty replacement for a Titan. This thing is absolutely beautiful. Chad and company have really up'ed their game. I can't wait to get it built up.
 

MMcG

Ride till you puke!
Dec 10, 2002
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Burlington, Connecticut
I just recieved a new generation Hooligan (the 26" version of the Dillinger) as a warranty replacement for a Titan. This thing is absolutely beautiful. Chad and company have really up'ed their game. I can't wait to get it built up.
Quite a step up in terms of quality, fit and finish from the old Soul frames like the Loki, Titan, Hardline and first generation Hooligan isn't it?

Also to note, Chad and company are considering and maybe even working on a 29er full suspension derivative of their Vegas frame! :thumb:
 

urbaindk

The Real Dr. Science
Jul 12, 2004
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Quite a step up in terms of quality, fit and finish from the old Soul frames like the Loki, Titan, Hardline and first generation Hooligan isn't it?

Also to note, Chad and company are considering and maybe even working on a 29er full suspension derivative of their Vegas frame! :thumb:
Yes, a big step up. I've been riding Soul bikes since 2004, so I've seen the gamut. I just wish their development time was a little quicker. I broke my Titan back in the spring. I emailed Chad with a couple of pictures of the cracks in my Titan and he emailed me right back and offered me a new Icon once they were finished. I needed a new bike quick so I bought a used Bottlerocket. Then of course the proto shots of the Vegas like a week later :( I'm not really complaining, I love the Bottlerocket, but if the Vegas was already finished, I would have ponied up the $$ for it.

Chad emailed me last week to tell me the new Icon's were in. Since I already had the Bottlerocket, I asked if I could get the Hooligan instead. It came by FedEx this AM. I could not be more pleased with his level of service.
 

ZoRo

Turbo Monkey
Sep 28, 2004
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Great review MMCG. Thanks! I was thinking of buying one of those frame and slowly build it with the parts I have. Start it out SS and work it up to 1x9 when I have additional parts and more money! The paint seems beautiful and the versatility of the frame got me pretty much sold.

Two questions:

What's the seatpost size for these frames?

USA only shipping (i'm in canada)? I couldn't find the info on their website.
 
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MMcG

Ride till you puke!
Dec 10, 2002
15,457
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Burlington, Connecticut
Great review MMCG. Thanks! I was thinking of buying one of those frame and slowly build it with the parts I have. Start it out SS and work it up to 1x9 when I have additional parts and more money! The paint seems beautiful and the versatility of the frame got me pretty much sold.

Two questions:

What's the seatpost size for these frames?

USA only shipping (i'm in canada)? I couldn't find the info on their website.
1) The frames take a 31.6mm seatpost

2) Shipping to Canada - I'd say it would be your best bet to call and speak with Chad at Soul Cycles. I'm sure he'll be able to answer your question and work with you to get a frame up there if indeed they do ship across the border (which I'm guessing they do).
 

el-cid

Chimp
Nov 4, 2004
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Anaconda, MT, USA
Excellent writeup Mark! I almost wish I could justify to myself building up another 29er hardtail just so I could buy one of those frames. Now that I think of it, I don't have an offroad fixie yet...