Ok, ok, you may have seen this before....
but I think the point is fantastic.
Pink- Stupid Girls
even if it is pop.
but I think the point is fantastic.
Pink- Stupid Girls
even if it is pop.
I've seen the video twice today, and can't tell you how the song starts or ends or the melody or whatever.... guess I'm the lucky one.laura said:It is a horrible song, even for a pop song. and it will now be stuck in my head all day even though i haven't heard any of it today.
I have never liked Pink until now. Kinda funny. I always thought she was too pop.laura said:Message is good, but it won't make dent. i dig pink. she could kick my ass.
thePINKster said:where have all the strong women gone?
there have been populations of strong women, they just haven't been given the credit... i'm not a feminist or anything, but from what i've seen lately a lot of girls are only concerned with having the reputation of being "hot" instead of talented, or intelligent... you can be both good-looking and kick ass, but because of all the media coverage on hollywood's sex symbols, it's unfortunately not something you see everyday.stinkyboy said:You're insinuating that there was once a large population of strong women.
Is Pink smart or strong because she makes fun of people who aren't like her? Pink's smart?
It's sad but true, but for what it's worth, lots of the guys are annoyed with stupid and sexist comments too, and most of us try to stay out of this forum...on that note, ok I am leaving now...amydalayna said:this place is a hard place to discuss strong women/ good looking women.
I think the Kote thread is a great example why.
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146720
When a girl is signed to a new team, it's not her racing records that the guys are concerned with. It's whether or not they would "hit that".
It is funny. It may seem catty to laugh about it, but I think this is a reaction to the pressure we feel as women to be 'beautiful' all the gddmn time, and Pink is trying to knock the pedestals out from under the 'role models'.thePINKster said:haha.. i just love that it makes fun of the stupid chicks that people seem to bow down to
I don't think that a large population of smart, strong, women got wiped out by a meteor.......stinkyboy said:You're insinuating that there was once a large population of strong women.
When I think of Pink, I don't think Mensa material, but I do appreciate the general message... and am happy that somebody put it out there.stinkyboy said:Is Pink smart or strong because she makes fun of people who aren't like her? Pink's smart?
Like OGRipper said, most of us guys get sick of those dumb ass comments too. Not to mention, I think the average age of the "guys" posting those comments in that thread is 14 years old.amydalayna said:When a girl is signed to a new team, it's not her racing records that the guys are concerned with. It's whether or not they would "hit that".
Westy said:On the surface the video has a good message but Pink is still an attractive woman slithering around in a video half naked. Still selling mediocre music with sex.
Making unattractive or nerdy kids feel good about themselves is a good thing, but also a simple recipe for big record sales.MudGrrl said:When I think of Pink, I don't think Mensa material, but I do appreciate the general message... and am happy that somebody put it out there.
Well you can argue she's working the industry and manipulating her videos in a way that will get the message out to as many people as possible, using her position to make an impact, etc.Westy said:Ont he surface the video has a good message but Pink is still an attractive woman slithering around in a video half naked. Still selling mediocre music with sex. It seems to me she is just bashing Image A in favor of Image B. Although I would say her take is the lesser of two evils. I think if the point of the video was to make a point it could have been done with just the scenes where she was fully clothed and mocking the Paris Hilton types.
I Are Baboon said:Like OGRipper said, most of us guys get sick of those dumb ass comments too. Not to mention, I think the average age of the "guys" posting those comments in that thread is 14 years old.
mtnbrider said:It's so dumb. When a girl that rides, comes up in a thread, most everyone makes stupid comments. No wonder, the number of girls riding is low.
MudGrrl said:the number of girls riding is low because our society trains us to be careful and safe and the most dangerous thing we are allowed to do is go to target by ourselves.
seriously.
when I tell other people that I ride, they react as though it is incredibly dangerous. my ex's mom thought I was Evil friggin Knievel.
And... I don't even downhill.
well said Girl!!!!!!stephanie said:I don't really think that the number of girls riding is very low...in fact, I'd bet that it's much higher than ever. But, the number of women RACING is super low (and getting lower)...
WHY? We are treated like second class citizens (ok, so maybe it's nothing new) at most of the races. We get hardly any recognition (except amongst ourselves), especially in the media. Look at all the dh racing vids out there...of course, most women only show up in the "extras" and it's usually footage of them standing on the podium. Earthed 3 had nice (but super short) segments of Rachel Atherton and Tracey Moseley, but they were in the extras. Mountain Bike Action's website posts results from the local Fontana (CA) races, but I've never seen a picture of a girl show up amongst all the pics of the guys.
Here's another one for you...I recently got a flyer in the mail for a certain mountain bike series. To my surprise (and delight) there was a full page ad for a women's mountain biking weekend. And, there was a huge picture of a girl on the ad...or so I thought until I looked closer. It was a picture of a GUY!!!!! His name was on his bike...COME ON!!! A women's event is advertised with a pic of a guy on it?!?
When we do get recognition, like Kote did (by someone who was trying to be genuine), people have to go and make it something negative by reducing her to nothing but a set of boobs on a bike. I've had all sorts of reactions to my downhilling, from looks of confusion to looks of disgust to people asking if I am a lesbian...why...just because I ride my bike down a hill? Come on!!! It just goes to show that unfortunately, a lot of people in this world (and on these message boards) are uneducated and uncultured. I think a lot of you girls have made great arguments and I applaud you for speaking up!!
And for all the guys who say that women's racing isn't as "exciting" as men's racing...it's just an excuse to not give credit where credit is due. This is going to sound snide (purposely) but most of these guys are the same guys who have the g/f's with the big fake boobs, acrylic nails and prissy attitudes who would never go anywhere near a bike. Bottom line...many guys are intimidated by strong women, whether they want to admit it or not.
So, maybe I've ruffled a couple feathers with this post...I hope that might be the case, especially among the male section of the population. It's time we start recognizing and respecting women. And women, respect yourselves for crissakes...we are strong and intelligent. Maybe then, the numbers of women racers will increase to what it used to be and I can stop racing myself!
LOL! Evil friggin Knievel...I love it!!! I get the same response at school from my kids and co-workers. I have a few biking photos up and they are all amazed and think I must be crazy (and yes, I am). I am hoping to instill a sense of confidence in my daughter and help her to break out of the "cookie-cutter" gender roles that society provides I truly look forward to the day when I can take her out riding or throw around a football and hope that she'll be out there rippin' up the trails and, more importantly, having fun for many years.MudGrrl said:the number of girls riding is low because our society trains us to be careful and safe and the most dangerous thing we are allowed to do is go to target by ourselves.
seriously.
when I tell other people that I ride, they react as though it is incredibly dangerous. my ex's mom thought I was Evil friggin Knievel.
And... I don't even downhill.
I know how you feel...I am a high school teacher and the kids look at me with a mix of amazement and horrorTreeSaw said:LOL! Evil friggin Knievel...I love it!!! I get the same response at school from my kids and co-workers. I have a few biking photos up and they are all amazed and think I must be crazy (and yes, I am). I am hoping to instill a sense of confidence in my daughter and help her to break out of the "cookie-cutter" gender roles that society provides I truly look forward to the day when I can take her out riding or throw around a football and hope that she'll be out there rippin' up the trails and, more importantly, having fun for many years.
TreeSaw said:I am hoping to instill a sense of confidence in my daughter and help her to break out of the "cookie-cutter" gender roles that society provides I truly look forward to the day when I can take her out riding or throw around a football and hope that she'll be out there rippin' up the trails and, more importantly, having fun for many years.
stephanie said:And for all the guys who say that women's racing isn't as "exciting" as men's racing...it's just an excuse to not give credit where credit is due.
stephanie said:I don't really think that the number of girls riding is very low...in fact, I'd bet that it's much higher than ever. But, the number of women RACING is super low (and getting lower)...
WHY? We are treated like second class citizens (ok, so maybe it's nothing new) at most of the races. We get hardly any recognition (except amongst ourselves), especially in the media. Look at all the dh racing vids out there...of course, most women only show up in the "extras" and it's usually footage of them standing on the podium. Earthed 3 had nice (but super short) segments of Rachel Atherton and Tracey Moseley, but they were in the extras. Mountain Bike Action's website posts results from the local Fontana (CA) races, but I've never seen a picture of a girl show up amongst all the pics of the guys.
Here's another one for you...I recently got a flyer in the mail for a certain mountain bike series. To my surprise (and delight) there was a full page ad for a women's mountain biking weekend. And, there was a huge picture of a girl on the ad...or so I thought until I looked closer. It was a picture of a GUY!!!!! His name was on his bike...COME ON!!! A women's event is advertised with a pic of a guy on it?!?
When we do get recognition, like Kote did (by someone who was trying to be genuine), people have to go and make it something negative by reducing her to nothing but a set of boobs on a bike. I've had all sorts of reactions to my downhilling, from looks of confusion to looks of disgust to people asking if I am a lesbian...why...just because I ride my bike down a hill? Come on!!! It just goes to show that unfortunately, a lot of people in this world (and on these message boards) are uneducated and uncultured. I think a lot of you girls have made great arguments and I applaud you for speaking up!!
And for all the guys who say that women's racing isn't as "exciting" as men's racing...it's just an excuse to not give credit where credit is due. This is going to sound snide (purposely) but most of these guys are the same guys who have the g/f's with the big fake boobs, acrylic nails and prissy attitudes who would never go anywhere near a bike. Bottom line...many guys are intimidated by strong women, whether they want to admit it or not.
So, maybe I've ruffled a couple feathers with this post...I hope that might be the case, especially among the male section of the population. It's time we start recognizing and respecting women. And women, respect yourselves for crissakes...we are strong and intelligent. Maybe then, the numbers of women racers will increase to what it used to be and I can stop racing myself!
Doug, I think you missed my point. No, females not racing is NOT caused by lack of women in DH videos...it is simply an example of the lack of support we get from the industry.douglas said:huh?? women dont race because there are hardly any females in DH videos, and being a guy is on the race flyer?? If a female rides why would either make her decide not to race?
Most of the races I go to, the females get more applause/praise from the spectators, and from everyone at the podium. Also the announcers always make several comments about talking your SO, sister, daughter etc into doing the next race.