Stupid iPods
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I like all the hate going on with the iPod. It's a good product. Face it the companies you haters are buying from couldn't market their player well because it is either ugly, has poor features or is a blatant iPod ripoff. All the creative zen players are pretty much direct copies of the iPod. Apple releases a new player and all these drone companies scramble to make a copy of it. And may I remind everyone that if Apple hadn't made the iPod your shiny little copy probably wouldn't exist right now.
Apple was not the first one to release an mp3 player.bballe336 said:
When did I say they were the first? I didn't. But Apple made mp3 players popular by making a player with an easy to use interface, plenty of features and a good computer software interface as well. Before iPod and iTunes came along you had huge mp3 players (or small ones with 3 buttons) that had terrible problems. First of all before the iPod mp3 players generally operated like cd players. So you couldn't look at your playlists and you couldn't make more than one playlist. Also the computer interface on these things was horrible. The software wasn't even a music jukebox it was pretty much useless. Your creative zen blah blah blah with music and video playback and blah blah blah wouldn't be around (at least not for a few more years) if Apple hadn't made the iPod.Polandspring88 said:
Except for the fact that the side to side scrolling option that is used by the iPod was technology originally developed by Creative Labs.bballe336 said:
Polandspring88 said:
Guess Creative F'd that up then cause what they got now isn't very nice...
...which was exactly the point of my post. Thanks for agreeing.binary visions said:
Someone claimed that "nanos are crap."
i don't think anyone said that iPods where the worst thing since polka music. i do dislike them a lot though. thats why i think they're stupid. the reason a lot of people don't like them is because you pay for the name.bballe336 said:
for $200 you could get a 2g nano or for $200 you could get a 8g creative. the only diffrence is how you upload the music.
Do they taste like Sambuca, Grappa, Akavit, absinthe, Galliano or Ouzo?douglas said:
god, that really got your knickers in a knot didn t it... nano is the small flash player that had / has problems with broken screens isn t it ???sally struthers said:
sorry, still crap in my book... but hey, if you like it, and it works for you then isn t that just dandy...
this is the internet, don t take it to heart...
I wasn't agreeing.sally struthers said:
Since your statement that nanos are hardy devices applies to all flash based MP3 players, you are not refuting their claim that "nanos are crap."
Again, to use my same analogy, if someone said, "Kias are crap," and my response was, "no, they're not - they start when I turn the key and the wheels don't fall off," I'm not proving that Kias aren't crap. I'm just proving that they meet the same rudimentary standards that most cars do. Since all cars (and MP3 players) perform these very basic functions, there needs to be other standards on which they're judged.
binary visions said:
blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda :looney:
i agree the marketing is terrible but you obviously missed the point with what i had to say.Polandspring88 said:
Sure you are. He wrote "nanos are crap." You wrote that all flash-based devices are hardy. Nanos are flash-based.binary visions said:
Ergo, you disagree with him and agree with me.
sally struthers said:
You might want to brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
Something can be hardy and still be crap. :teacher:
Ok, now you're arguing just to argue, which is no surprise at all.binary visions said:
You might want to brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
Something can be hardy and still be crap. :teacher:
I leave you to twiddle your monobrow and ponder your specious car analogies.
Enjoy!
Not at all. I just found your comment at odds with my personal experience.partsbara said:
Hence my reply.
sally struthers said:
Ha! I love that your name is Sally Struthers. Are you collecting the cost of a cup of coffee every day to help out your bike fund?
Well Apple put the technology to better use than creative did. Scroll wheel > scroll bar.Polandspring88 said:
Plus the thing is that before Apple came along with the iPod there were no GUI operating systems on mp3 players. (am I using the term GUI incorrectly here? BV?). The whole file menu system originated on the iPod.
my ipod video -> headroom total airhead headphone amp -> sennheiser hd-600 setup sounds quite good when it's playing tracks encoded with Apple Lossless, thank you. i'll give the sony a listen if i get a chance but i don't find anything lacking with things at present.Changleen said:
and what's special about the ipod is:
a) easy, local support at the apple stores
b) iTunes Music Store + video + all these free tracks (25 per week x 10 weeks for students! go to the Apple Students facebook group for the schtick, also see http://freeitunessongs.blogspot.com/ )
c) more peripherals than you can shake a stick at
d) good form factor, decent battery life
e) non-suck interface.
yeh we sell creative products at my work (Brookstone) and we decided to test their durability....the zen micro photo withstood a drop off a 15' latter while playing and came out with no scratches...and still worked...try that with ur nano...
uh, say what?Changleen said:
repeat after me: DRM only applies to songs bought from the iTunes Music Store. DRM only applies to songs bought from the iTunes Music Store. DRM only applies to songs bought from the iTunes Music Store.
what the astute reader may deduce from the prior sentence is that iTunes imposes no DRM whatsoever on tracks that you do not purchase from the iTMS.
rip a CD? no DRM. download a song off your filesharing service of choice? no DRM. record your own chanting on a radio shack microphone? no DRM.
i hope this public service announcement has helped.
I thought a lot about this before I bought an Ipod. Music quality, battery life, and looks did not matter much to me, and I assume it was a wash compared to other brands. I could obviously be wrong about that, but like buying a Honda, it is hard to go wrong with an Ipod.Toshi said:my ipod video -> headroom total airhead headphone amp -> sennheiser hd-600 setup sounds quite good when it's playing tracks encoded with Apple Lossless, thank you. i'll give the sony a listen if i get a chance but i don't find anything lacking with things at present.
and what's special about the ipod is:
a) easy, local support at the apple stores
b) iTunes Music Store + video + all these free tracks (25 per week x 10 weeks for students! go to the Apple Students facebook group for the schtick, also see http://freeitunessongs.blogspot.com/ )
c) more peripherals than you can shake a stick at
d) good form factor, decent battery life
e) non-suck interface.
Independence from Microsoft is a big deal to me, and I tried a couple of music engines and I thought ITunes is the best.
I am not sure what Ipod needs to do that it doesn't do already. My only request is a PDF reader so I can read tech docs on the train....
it's a workaround, but you can view pdfs if you export each page as one of the following formats (from http://www.apple.com/ipod/specs.html):
JPEG, BMP, GIF, TIFF, PSD (Mac only) and PNG
actually that might not work too well, what with resolution differences and all. if it was only text then you certainly could put that in a .txt file. drop such a file in the Notes folder on the ipod and it's readable/scrollable on the device.
i have the subway maps for boston, nyc, dc, london, etc. on my ipod this way (method #1). well, i didn't do it: some inventive guy scanned them, cut them up into ipod-readable chunks, and posted them up on the interwebbe
http://www.isubwaymaps.com/
JPEG, BMP, GIF, TIFF, PSD (Mac only) and PNG
actually that might not work too well, what with resolution differences and all. if it was only text then you certainly could put that in a .txt file. drop such a file in the Notes folder on the ipod and it's readable/scrollable on the device.
i have the subway maps for boston, nyc, dc, london, etc. on my ipod this way (method #1). well, i didn't do it: some inventive guy scanned them, cut them up into ipod-readable chunks, and posted them up on the interwebbe
http://www.isubwaymaps.com/
Will the Iriver work with those docking station/speaker systems that are for ipods? Do they have any of these thigs for the iriver?
it'll work in the sense that most docking stations also have a standard 1/8" plug for input, in addition to the fancy-pants ipod docking connector. so you'll have to plug it in, it won't stand up at a rakish angle, and it won't get charged automagically but sound should emanate from the speakers