Supercross Predictions for this weekend? My son Mason is excited that the season is starting this weekend.
Mine:
James S 1st
Ryan V 2nd
Reed 3rd
Windham 4th
Cecil
Mine:
James S 1st
Ryan V 2nd
Reed 3rd
Windham 4th
Cecil
Supercross Predictions for this weekend?
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stewart crashes-though i hope he doesnt
1 - JS
2 - RV
3 - who cares
2 - RV
3 - who cares
Amazing seeing what JGR has done for Stewart's bike, but then if you have ever been in a NASCAR race shop it was just a matter of time.
I really want to see Dungey get the KTM onto the podium, but with the year Ryan V. had last year I have to say he is the man to beat.
1st RV
2nd Stewart
3rd Dungey
4th Reed
5th Metcalf (Trey Canard if he decides to race, he was given the ok but may sit out one more week)
I really want to see Dungey get the KTM onto the podium, but with the year Ryan V. had last year I have to say he is the man to beat.
1st RV
2nd Stewart
3rd Dungey
4th Reed
5th Metcalf (Trey Canard if he decides to race, he was given the ok but may sit out one more week)
I want to see Stewart do well
1- JS
2- RV
3- Mr.22
1- JS
2- RV
3- Mr.22
RC and JMB come out of retirement and skool them all.
any link i can go to, to read about Stewarts new bike?
not a lot of detail but enough to know that they have done more then any other SC team.
http://www.vitalmx.com/photos/features/Anaheim-1-Press-Day,36633/Monster-Energy-Supercross,54899/GuyB,64
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^ blue kashima... yum!
Nice to see the helmet painter team beat all the factory guys 
Cole Seely, Team Troy Lee Designs, Anaheim 1 champion.
Cole Seely, Team Troy Lee Designs, Anaheim 1 champion.
Those were some tight quarters to have to race in. Even having to set up a pass cost time that RV1 was just gobbling up. He just looked fitter. I don't envy those guys trying to run 2 wide, let alone swapping lines on that track.
Definitely some great racing though!
i thought like reed, lucas oil/honda essentially have "factory" bikes.Nice to see the helmet painter team beat all the factory guys
i was surprised that dean didn't do better...especially with that bobble at the end that cost him a podium. however, it was exciting to see Tomac charge out of the LCQ and end up with a 3rd place podium in the Main.
hats off to villopoto for a dominating ride in the main. i agree with the speed channel announcing that stewart just never looked "on" in the main. that crash at the end looked amateurish, essentially running off the track.
ONWARD to phoenix!
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did anyone notice the tight leggings monster energy blond holding the time board at the start of the SX Main? SMOKIN!
ONWARD to phoenix!
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did anyone notice the tight leggings monster energy blond holding the time board at the start of the SX Main? SMOKIN![/QUOTE]
Great show!!!
i noticed her when she winked at me, made me special.
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did anyone notice the tight leggings monster energy blond holding the time board at the start of the SX Main? SMOKIN![/QUOTE]
Great show!!!
i noticed her when she winked at me, made me special.
they are
I am pretty sure TLD is just a support team. I highly doubt they have any factory Honda stuff on the bikes. I don't think any factory messes around with a lites program except KTM. I guess Stik would know the real answer.
Some stuff from the night...
3 out of the big 4 crashed or washed out.
Stewart looked like he hadn't raced in 7 months... oh wait. I expected more for some reason and he got a bad start once again.
Tomac went from full on damage control at the start of the LCQ to a 3rd at the end of the night. Plus he may have had one of the best holeshots ever in the LCQ.
Brayton and Weimer with solid results, Hansen with a top 10 and Tedesco was running very good until he crashed.
I wonder how many people thought Osborne was JLaw?
JT gear is still ugly.
Bret Michaels needs to go away, I don't care how much money he gives away.
Factory honda is honda/geico no? Kawasaki factory is the procircuit team no? Only suzuki and yamaha has bowed out of the whole "factory" race team model.
Honda Muscle Milk is their factory team this year, with Trey Canard and Justin Brayton. Kawasaki's factory team is Monster Energy Kawasaki and includes Villopoto and Jake Weimer. The Pro Circuit Kawasaki team is owned by Mitch Payton and is traditionally a 250 (Lites) team, however for the first time ever, they have a 450 rider this year in Broc Tickle. This is because he has scored over 100 points in the past 3 seasons, therefore forced to move up to the big class.
didnt they say during the broadcast that despite them not being the "official" factory team, they are still riding factory bikes? or was that another team?
I work about 75' from our race shop, our bikes come from a crate, definitely NOT factory works bikes like Geico or PC.
We are the dark horse, and we are the only gear company with a full fledged race team.
We are the dark horse, and we are the only gear company with a full fledged race team.
Wait...I'm lost. What happened to the word "WORKS"? Has "FACTORY" replaced it? Am I really that old?
i think a lot had to do with tire selection.
during practice #3, james stewart ran the fastest qualifier on a works dunlop tire, and probably would've ran it for the main, but yamaha or dunlops manager (forget who he works for), broc glover, reclaimed the dunlop tire from JGR. he also ran a rebadged bridgestone in practice #2.
JGR is working on testing all new tires w/ JS during this week.
so it's pretty clear JS clearly doesnt like the pirelli tires JGR is running right now. if you don't have the confidence in your tires you run, then you cant really allow yourself to push it.
i think JS knew he couldnt get 100% comfortable on the pirellis, so instead of trying to run at 100%, he decided to ride around at like 70% and just earn points for the round.
hopefully they get a new tire made up that JS likes.
Phoenix track is looking a LOT more like the standard sx tracks that we're use to seeing...flowy, fast tech sections where the top 1-3 guys will be able to do a line that no one else can and will seperate themselves from the pack. i think all the top 4-5 guys are going to feel and be a lot faster on this track.
i expect (hope) to see JS up there w/ RV this coming week.
I don't think you can call Factory Connections and PC factory either. It's not like FC has hydro clutches, clamps, suspension like team Honda, Reed and Short. PC runs Showa and PC stuff and factory Kawi has KYB.
There is no real Works bikes anymore like back in the day when factories could do whatever to the bikes like modify frames, swing arms, carb and everything. Now there are production rules and limits. However the GP's have Works bikes.
I was shocked when he said that he was happy with the Pirellis after the first week of testing with JGR and was going to run them for the season. Especially after JGR said whatever James wants James gets. I hope it was just a bit of rust for James. He will be back.
FC does have technical support from the Manufacturer, where as TLD gets only stock motorcycles & production parts. TLD development is done in house without the tech support from Honda. PC also is technically supported by Kawasaki, as well as being on the forefront for development for them.
Lites rules are different from 450 class rules... there is a monetary cap on suspension costs for lights teams (approx $7500) where as 450 class is available to run more expensive options. Thats why 'A Kit' is what you see on 250's but 450's you may see some of the 'works' options.
PC runs showa suspension because they are a distributer for Showa & work with them on the development front.
Looked like Bubba got tired and out of sync on the bike once he did. He didn't look he was spinning wheels in the whoops and nobody was cutting him in the turns or snapping faster out of them w/ better traction. His timing and rhythm was off and it didn't happen until he wore himself out passing lappers.
Who was that kook on the Kawi in front of James at the beginning? Looked like it was his first time on a 450. Not able to control the power and the rear end was all over the place. Weird track with a couple jumps that have you landing on a table-top. I'd like to see if Villapoto was back-siding those.
That would be Josh Grant. Odd track indeed. I guess rollers don't work so well for dirt bikes.
Interestingly both the TLD and Geico Honda team use motors modded with Pro Circuit parts, and the TLD team uses Pro Circuit modded suspension. You know you're doing something right when your competitors want to run your stuff. I would be willing to bet Cole Seely (TLD) and Eli Tomac (Geico Honda) have pretty comparable bikes, performance wise, when they are on the start line.
It's still the rider that makes a bike go fast. A good rider beats a fast bike.
Ahh you might want to re think that.... FC no longer uses PC for engines or exhausts. They use Yoshimura exhausts, just like the factory 450 team now.
Sure all the 250's are pretty close now but TLD doesn't share any technical components that FC use. About the only comparable things on Seely's & Tomac's bikes are the frames & red plastic.
Cool, didn't realize Geico team had moved away from Pro Circuit stuff.
I understand that the bikes have parts with different names on them but it's hard to say performance wise one bike is better than the other. According to this press release http://www.vitalmx.com/news/press-release/Honda-Factory-Team-and-Support-Teams-Gear-Up-for-2012-Supercross-Season-Opener,11740both TLD and FC are classified as "support teams". TLD team manager is quoted as saying We continue to improve every year and with American Hondas ongoing support, I think we have a great chance at winning a championship in 2012.
These rollers don't seem to work so well either -
http://www.jokeroo.com/user-content/videos/funny/2011/8/760794-womens-motocross-fail.html
How embarassing. I think they'd do better at enduro X on a KTM 105sx than a full size bike.
My predictions for phx
SX podium
1. Villopoto
2. Stewart
3. Dungey
Lites podium
1. Rattray
2. Tomac
3. Wilson
SX podium
1. Villopoto
2. Stewart
3. Dungey
Lites podium
1. Rattray
2. Tomac
3. Wilson
V2P 1st
Reed 2nd
Dungey 3rd
..Stewart willl crash and blame it on the virus he's figthing
Reed 2nd
Dungey 3rd
..Stewart willl crash and blame it on the virus he's figthing
