i'm just passing this along (from MTBR thread). i'm the last person to preach, but just wanted to let folks know what is going on. below is what someone posted, this spot could see its days numbered, some fences are already up.
again, not preaching, but it doesn't help to have an organized race here, posted on youtube and a sh#tload of trash leftover and also lots of shuttle trucks parking up top. just try to keep a semi-low profile if possible. woudl be a shame to loose this place.
thanks
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My info comes from inside info at the Poway Sheriffs Dept. I've been riding out there for over 15 years. I worked at he the local shop for years and the majority of our XC team trained out there (the backyard). About 6 years ago, it was kind of the beggining of the end. We started to see new trails carved all over the place, jumps being built... Nothing against you gravity guys, but you might as well have put in a chairlift. This actually caused the PSD to look into who the landowner was so they could find out what was going on. The owner who lived out of State flew in as he had no idea was was going on.
The kicker was that he went out and bought a bunch of no trespassing signs to cover himself so he wouldn't be liable when someone busted themselves up. Well, that lasted about 2 days as every one of his signs were torn down and destroyed. So he has hired somone local to manage it and put in permits to have the property POSTED. The property lies on both Poway and San Diego limits, thus the 2 permits.
Once POSTED, this will allow the PSD and SDPD to activley police it. I've been told that the first citation is a $1000 fine with no reduction in fine if the represenitive of the property shows to court.
Maybe I'm just a dick, but I've never understood the rational to bring in tools, and carve up a huge piece of property that you don't own, and have no permission to be on. I guess I'm old school. My mom would always ask "is that yours", I'd say "no!" She say "then don't F'ing touch it"
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again, not preaching, but it doesn't help to have an organized race here, posted on youtube and a sh#tload of trash leftover and also lots of shuttle trucks parking up top. just try to keep a semi-low profile if possible. woudl be a shame to loose this place.
thanks
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My info comes from inside info at the Poway Sheriffs Dept. I've been riding out there for over 15 years. I worked at he the local shop for years and the majority of our XC team trained out there (the backyard). About 6 years ago, it was kind of the beggining of the end. We started to see new trails carved all over the place, jumps being built... Nothing against you gravity guys, but you might as well have put in a chairlift. This actually caused the PSD to look into who the landowner was so they could find out what was going on. The owner who lived out of State flew in as he had no idea was was going on.
The kicker was that he went out and bought a bunch of no trespassing signs to cover himself so he wouldn't be liable when someone busted themselves up. Well, that lasted about 2 days as every one of his signs were torn down and destroyed. So he has hired somone local to manage it and put in permits to have the property POSTED. The property lies on both Poway and San Diego limits, thus the 2 permits.
Once POSTED, this will allow the PSD and SDPD to activley police it. I've been told that the first citation is a $1000 fine with no reduction in fine if the represenitive of the property shows to court.
Maybe I'm just a dick, but I've never understood the rational to bring in tools, and carve up a huge piece of property that you don't own, and have no permission to be on. I guess I'm old school. My mom would always ask "is that yours", I'd say "no!" She say "then don't F'ing touch it"
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