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stalky

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Heya guys whats the difference between the iphone and the fake ones that have flooded the internet (pictured below)

http://321ce99b.thesegalleries.com

can they do everything an iphone can? like games and apps and stuff? i think i would be to scared to buy one cause it looks cheap...

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stoney

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Born on date of today? I'd be hesitant to open that link guys.
 
BIGHITR

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If he's a spammer, how come his account is not blocked may I ask?:ban:

As to the new phone that is supposed to give the iPhone a run for their money, didn't we go through this back with the introduction of the Zune? Ooo the big scare! iPod's going to have a run for it's money!!! Ooooo! And it wasn't all that?

iPhone's got the market, and Billy boy Gates and all the rest can try, but this younger gen is hooked on Apple. I've been waiting for this moment since 1985. The only thing that will take down Apple, is Steve Jobs kickin the bucket. Considering he said he'd be back in June, and he hasn't popped up yet and seen his shadow, I'd say Apples future is uncertain. But the iPhone? C'mon, give me a break. No one is beating that gadget, not now with the jump on the market and all those apps for a buck.

The answer is in every kid's whine at Christmas... "Waaa! Daddy, call Santa Claus back! I did't want an MP3 player! I WANT AN IPOD!!!" Thus the reason why Apple's still king. Stupid stupid PC fathers... "DADDY, I WANT AN IPOD!" :nopity:

Oh, and Apple's new iPod is going to be a much smaller thinner model with a 30gb removeable micro SD card. No more moving parts. Yes, you can quote me here and reference back to it in the fall or so to show my Apple prowess. :biggrin:
 
ire

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BIGHITR said:
The only thing that will take down Apple, is Steve Jobs kickin the bucket.
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I think his succession plan will keep the company running with the same culture of innovation....they make damn nice products
 
drkenan

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The "aPhone" is a POS.

And there's no way that Apple is going to all of a sudden fail because Jobs is out of commission. They've got the market and they do an amazing job at being market leader.

I've had to contact Apple a lot recently regarding my iPhone and every time they fix the problem perfectly. Their customer service is spot on. Jobs built an incredible infrastructure and there's no way it's going to fail without him around.
 
BIGHITR

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I care! I'm Mac all the way since '85. My only worry is that Jobs is the mastermind behind all the incredible ideas. He's a visionary. Remember, all Gates was to this equation was someone who took three macs from Jobs, "big mistake," and back engineer them to see how they worked and then wrote his own code to do the same thing and offer it a ton cheaper. If it hadn't been for that mistake, Jobs would have been king for the past several decades only to license the idea to other companies if they wanted in on the monopoly. It's his visionary mind that is what will be lost. Granted, there are a ton of creative people behind Apple, but it was Jobs who was the main visionary in the company, it's design, style and image. Without him, it will take a hit although how hard, nobody knows. But he is supposed to reappear now this month. If he doesn't, I wouldn't want to be holding their stock for a while. It's a shame him and Woz didn't stay together over the years creatively, maybe Woz could have some future incite. But it's all up in the air for now and Apple's loyal fans. I'm one of them. I'll buy Apple as long as it's still cutting edge in use and design. I'm about to blow $7,500 on a brand new 2.93 dual quad core 12gb ram/650gb hd, top of the line 27 inch Viewsonic Pro monitor and some software so I'm still faithful. I just hope Steve Jobs is okay, I'd hate to see him go. He's changed my life.
 
syadasti

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Bighitr does have some cause for concern. Apple got a bailout (from MS, no less) and was not being run well before Jobs came back to Apple.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/08/opinion/the-apple-of-microsoft-s-eye.html

And Apple does not innovate, they borrow/steal from the real innovators, its easy to see if you really know what you are talking about. Even in the beginning, Xerox was the real innovator and Apple paid to get a look at and copied Xerox's visionary GUI technology. So really the reality is neither Gates NOR Jobs innovated anything back then.

The iPod was not the first mp3player or even the first HDD mp3player by a long shot. Apple does not think different, they just act like they do in their marketing literature...
 
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buildyourown

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stinkyboy said:
Tiny remote video
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That's funny, because that is exactly what I hate about Apple products. I would love an MP3 player that was a bit bigger, but could scroll through 300 songs quickly. Or how about controls you could use with gloves on. Or something with enough tactile feel that you can use it while driving.
Apple has never put function before form. Make it in smooth and shiny and in pretty colors and people will buy it.
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splat

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syadasti said:
Bighitr does have some cause for concern. Apple got a bailout (from MS, no less) and was not being run well before Jobs came back to Apple.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/08/opinion/the-apple-of-microsoft-s-eye.html

And Apple does not innovate, they borrow/steal from the real innovators, its easy to see if you really know what you are talking about. Even in the beginning, Xerox was the real innovator and Apple paid to get a look at and copied Xerox's visionary GUI technology. So really the reality is neither Gates NOR Jobs innovated anything back then.

The iPod was not the first mp3player or even the first HDD mp3player by a long shot. Apple does not think different, they just act like they do in their marketing literature...
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wow , this whole subject could get very deep. But the Steve Jobs / Bill Gates being a Visionary /Thief /Marketing Genius /etc /etc could go on and on, but most of it come from being inm the right place at the right time with the right idea and an understanding that the business model of Personal computers was different that any other buisness.

Look up the 3 hr video series triumph of the nerds , Very insightfull of the early days of Home computing.

and the real genuies of were the 50 people at Xerox Parc
 
syadasti

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and the real genuies of were the 50 people at Xerox Parc
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Absolutely. There is nothing innovative or creative about copying existing technology. Jobs and Gates are leading businessmen, not visionaries. Marketing can't change history.
 
CBJ

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If you look at what they were able to do I think they as companies have been very innovative and creative. Taking a product to market globally like both Microsoft and Apple has done is not done without creativity, innovation and vision.

A lot of time the good idea or prototype is the easy part. Putting into a commercially acceptable packages that people will buy is not easy.
 
syadasti

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CBJ said:
If you look at what they were able to do I think they as companies have been very innovative and creative. Taking a product to market globally like both Microsoft and Apple has done is not done without creativity, innovation and vision.

A lot of time the good idea or prototype is the easy part. Putting into a commercially acceptable packages that people will buy is not easy.
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I don't like companies that try to pass off technology as their own original ideas when they are clearly not. Buying companies for IP or copying and packaging existing technology is not innovation. Its in the same vein as the product linked in the OP, only they just suck at it.

Do you also admire people who cheat in school/business/etc? Do you think DW appreciates the actions of Giant and Trek in regards to his hard work?

Hell Apple even rips off people in their marketing campaigns - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Such_Great_Heights :clue:
 
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Damo

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LOL? What the fck is 'lol'?

Ps. I am writing this on my iPhone in the middle of nowhere on the boat. I love my new phone...
 
BIGHITR

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Granted, we all know Jobs took the idea from Xerox because Xerox didn't want it. But from that point since, Jobs was a visionary in the fact he saw the benefit of it. Where it would take us. Just the idea of the mouse was an incredible advancement. He went from that point forward. He invented basically the first in home computer that was easy to use and navigate. He was a pioneer and anyone saying he wasn't is purely a pc user that refuses to see the truth. I use a thinkpad on my kitchen table to surf, other than that, that's all I use it for. My mac is everything else. Jobs was the first one to recognize the brilliance of Xerox's idea and ran with it. He's invented new products since and been the first to do so with everyone else in the industry racing to catch up and follow. He always comes out first with the idea because he's innovative. And first on the market usually rules with the exception of Beta and HDDVD.

Jobs is Apple. Without him, the company will stumble for a long while if not eventually go even with PC and if that happens, there will be no justification for selling a top of the line Mac starting at $5,888 and that's not even loaded to the hilt.

As to Design, Jobs has always had it over everyone else. He's got the best products out there. I have a friends kid who said when I asked if she had an iPod, she said, "No, all I just have is a zune." Her delivery went from mid voice tone to a droll low distraught sounding tone on the word zune like as if she was saying in disappointment, "no, all I got was a cheap immatation." Her emphasis on the word, "just" said it all. In other words, "No I don't have a REAL MP3 player, all my dad got me was this cheap copy of an iPod.

My brother, an IBM'r for years, prior to, a competitor of IBM, and being the #1 salesmen for that company for 8 years, finally broke down and bought an iPod touch or an iPhone I think it was. He said he loves it and says he needs it for applications he can't get with another type of unit.

Jobs is Apple, Apple is Jobs. Plain and simple. What happens if he don't show this month, or even worse, if he shows and looks worse, will all depend on the public if they want to continue to buy Apple stock with it's best asset gone. Steve Jobs.

If Jobs stays alive and well, Apple will eventually push PC to the side because right now, there are too many younger gen people growing up Apple and old loyalists like myself that will pay more to get Apple. It's like buying a porsche or buying a corvette. One gets respect, the other you look like a wanna be punk. I'll take the porsche.

Thass my peice on it. I'm done with this thread. Rave on PC users!
 
syadasti

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BIGHITR said:
He's invented new products since and been the first to do so with everyone else in the industry racing to catch up and follow. He always comes out first with the idea because he's innovative. And first on the market usually rules with the exception of Beta and HDDVD.
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Except that isn't reality:

Portable Digital Audio Players (DAP) - MPMan was first in 1997, not Apple in late 2001
HDD DAP - HP spinoff Remote Solutions was first in late 1999, not Apple in late 2001 (Apple was 9th or 10th HDD player to market)
Mini HDD DAPs - Creative, iRiver, Rio all had products on the market at least 6 months before the iPod Mini was announced
64-bit PCs - Alpha PC was first in 1992 made to run NT and later again they made a line in 1997, not Apple ten years later
MP3 broadcasting - Nullsoft shoutcast in 1998, not Apple podcasting in 2004
Cellphones with MP3 players - been out for a few years prior to the iPhone - touchscreen, integrated GPS, WiFi, etc wasn't a smartphone first either. Hell it took them ages to even allow third party apps and you are locked to ATT in the US were RIM/Nokia/etc give you freedom to choose your carrier.
OSX also has various features like widgets and spaces which were all done first elsewhere. Also Watson vs. Sherlock - etc

As to Design, Jobs has always had it over everyone else. He's got the best products out there.
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No PC/Macs were toys compared to big guns like SGI and Sun. State of the art special FX company Industrial Light and Machine used SGIs, not crappy PCs and Macs in the past before those companies recently lost their edge to the newer low-end PC architecture. Today lots of state of the art companies companies use PC with custom apps running on Linux distros, not Windows or OSX in the movie industry.

The US market is not the world market. Apple does not fair nearly as well elsewhere and even still their marketshare is not even close to dominant in anything but consumer notebooks and the iPod brand in the US (today Apple is first and foremost a consumer electronics company by their sales and marketshare). Smartphone sales, even from Nokia which dwarfs RIM and Apple are a small fraction of cellphone sales. The average person cannot afford a smartphone and its associated calling plan and most likely does not even need one.
 
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jdcamb

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syadasti said:
Except that isn't reality:

Portable Digital Audio Players (DAP) - MPMan was first in 1997, not Apple in late 2001
HDD DAP - HP spinoff Remote Solutions was first in late 1999, not Apple in late 2001 (Apple was 9th or 10th HDD player to market)
Mini HDD DAPs - Creative, iRiver, Rio all had products on the market at least 6 months before the iPod Mini was announced
64-bit PCs - Alpha PC was first in 1992 made to run NT and later again they made a line in 1997, not Apple ten years later
MP3 broadcasting - Nullsoft shoutcast in 1998, not Apple podcasting in 2004
Cellphones with MP3 players - been out for a few years prior to the iPhone - touchscreen, integrated GPS, WiFi, etc wasn't a smartphone first either. Hell it took them ages to even allow third party apps and you are locked to ATT in the US were RIM/Nokia/etc give you freedom to choose your carrier.
OSX also has various features like widgets and spaces which were all done first elsewhere. Also Watson vs. Sherlock - etc



No PC/Macs were toys compared to big guns like SGI and Sun. State of the art special FX company Industrial Light and Machine used SGIs, not crappy PCs and Macs in the past before those companies recently lost their edge to the newer low-end PC architecture. Today lots of state of the art companies companies use PC with custom apps running on Linux distros, not Windows or OSX in the movie industry.

The US market is not the world market. Apple does not fair nearly as well elsewhere and even still their marketshare is not even close to dominant in anything but consumer notebooks and the iPod brand in the US (today Apple is first and foremost a consumer electronics company by their sales and marketshare). Smartphone sales, even from Nokia which dwarfs RIM and Apple are a small fraction of cellphone sales. The average person cannot afford a smartphone and its associated calling plan and most likely does not even need one.
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You're wrong based on the fact that I have no idea WTF you're talking about. and because I say soo. So there mofo....
 
syadasti

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Toshi said:
why aren't mods deleting spambot threads these days?
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Or at least deleting the link from the post. I've reported a few past month or so?

I didn't realize it was DX until MMike mentioned them and I noticed stinkyboy's photo as I did not check out the link. DX does sell somewhat viable alternatives to grossly overpriced mainstream cycle lights with MCE and P7 LEDs flashlights though its a bit easier to make a flashlight :D

I bought one of these at the end of May, it rocks:

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.22567
 
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Toshi

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syadasti said:
Or at least deleting the link from the post. I've reported a few past month or so?
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seriously. i always report spam but lately the spam posts aren't getting deleted even after reporting.

MODS: step it up! hup hup

:busted:
 
jonKranked

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wow. Bighitr definitely drinking kool-aid. If you honestly think that Jobs is behind all of apples designs you're flat out retarded. There's a reason that Apple has teams of industrial designers, engineers, human interactivity specialists, cognitive analysts, etc in Cupertino. Do you really think Steve Jobs sits in his office with a bong a a flow-be all day sucking these ideas out of thin air?

Apple makes great consumer products, don't get me wrong. But that's where they've finally started to gain ground, the average Joe Schmoe who doesn't have the time to learn a lot of in depth stuff about computers. There are other markets (photographers, film editors), but you can only grow in those fields so much. You'll almost never see an Apple network server, or hosting machine, start to steal any significant market share from Sun, or even Microsoft. And for good reason.
 
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