So whats the best method for repairing a tubeless tire after a puncture that Stans can't seal up? Like a pinch-flat for instance?
I've seen it happen.Buy a new tire.
Oh, and........tubeless tires can't get "pinch flats"
Call it whatever you want... you hit a rock and the tire get's pinched between the rim and a rock... Tube or no tube, in my book that's a pinch flat and Stan's sucks at sealing them.Buy a new tire.
Oh, and........tubeless tires can't get "pinch flats"
Is that a patch or a plug? I've had the plugs work great on a car tire... I actually have some of that crap at home... wonder if it would work here? Methinks an experiment is brewing.Get thee to a farm and home type store and buy a tractor tire patch kit. Worked for me.
Yeah I get those in all my tubeless wheels - no CO2 required. As the water evaporates out of the sealant, the latex and everything else in it gathers into those "Stan's boogers". I've seen 'em up to an inch and a half.Oh yeah, meant to mention... I had a pinchflat last night. I tried several times to let stans seal up the hole while adding pressure with Co2. When I finally gave up and added a tube a huge chunk of solid latex was in the tire. It was about the size of a marble with, snowflake like arms coming off it in all directions. I assume it was from the Co2 freezing the liquid... has anyone else experienced this?
Wow... mine was about an inch. Crazy part is that the Stans in that tire was 2 weeks old... maybe.Yeah I get those in all my tubeless wheels - no CO2 required. As the water evaporates out of the sealant, the latex and everything else in it gathers into those "Stan's boogers". I've seen 'em up to an inch and a half.
Tried that... no success... didn't use a clamp though. I'm going to try the plug and see how that works for me. Buying new tires every 3 weeks is pretty lame.I've successfully used an old school tire tube patch kit on the inside of my nevegal UST's. My local autozone carries the thick black patches with the orange edge. After the obligatory sanding and cleaning, a dab of rubber cement, stick the patch, and clamp it down in a vice or one of those fancy schmancy ezclamps overnight.
My rear tire has 3 of those guys in it, my front has 2. Hasn't blown up yet.
Watch... just cuz I said that, they'll both pop on me on saturday's ride.
It's a patch. These patches are thicker than the black ones with the orange edging. You could probably use plugs for MC tires also.Is that a patch or a plug? I've had the plugs work great on a car tire... I actually have some of that crap at home... wonder if it would work here? Methinks an experiment is brewing.
Bull$hit. I got a tubeless pinch flat in 2002. Pi$$ed me off to no end because people told me tubeless tires didn't pinch flat.<snip>
Oh, and........tubeless tires can't get "pinch flats"
To me, ripping a hole in the tire isn't the same as a pinch flat. Sure, the flat may be caused by pinching the tire between the rim and a rock, but at least when that happens with a tube you're not out a $60 tire.Bull$hit. I got a tubeless pinch flat in 2002. Pi$$ed me off to no end because people told me tubeless tires didn't pinch flat.
Then it's a pinch flat.<snip> Sure, the flat may be caused by pinching the tire between the rim and a rock
At least a pinch flat with a tube means the tire is still fine. Pinch flat with tubeless means a giant hole in the tire.Then it's a pinch flat.
Dumba$$.
Your conclusion is flawed. 'Cause the tire worked just fine with a tube in it. The tubeless pinch flat resulted in just a small "snakebite" type hole in the tubeless tire.At least a pinch flat with a tube means the tire is still fine. Pinch flat with tubeless means a giant hole in the tire.
Sure, the cause may be the same, but the outcome is drastically different.
So in summary:
flat with tube = pinch flat
flat with tubeless = destroyed tire
.........so just run tubes from the get-go....Your conclusion is flawed. 'Cause the tire worked just fine with a tube in it.
No I use stans... my tires are not tubeless specific. I actually picked up some patches over lunch (along with some other goodies) and am going to try to patch the tire tonight. The only thing that worries me is that the stans will somehow detach the patch from the tire over time.Golgi... your tires are marked "tubeless" or UST right?
You could also try using this stuff as an adheseive instead of rubber cement.
Pinch + flat = pinchflat... regardless of the survival of the tire.At least a pinch flat with a tube means the tire is still fine. Pinch flat with tubeless means a giant hole in the tire.
Sure, the cause may be the same, but the outcome is drastically different.
So in summary:
flat with tube = pinch flat
flat with tubeless = destroyed tire
more like pinch + annihilation = pinchannihilationPinch + flat = pinchflat... regardless of the survival of the tire.
Crab + Joe = WTF OMG LOL HARBL HARBLMAOmore like pinch + annihilation = pinchannihilation
That could be why the patch isn't working. Tubeless tires are a bit more reinforced than your regular tire.No I use stans... my tires are not tubeless specific...
They used a 26" wheeled bike.BTW I'm sure everyone has seen that video where the stans tire is ridden though a bed of nails over and over again... the hole in my tire wasn't even as big as one of those nails. So wtf? What was different in that test than on my bike?
Quit mowing down rocks using XC weight-weenie tires. Buy UST and quit bitching.
Hole was not on the sidewall. Was in the tread from a pinch flat... regardless, that's not the point, point it that I'm testing different methods to repair a tubeless/stan's setup. The tube patch method has failed. One down, several more methods to go.
You're using race tires with rice paper thin sidewalls.
You either have to be really careful to hit rocks straight on (with the tread) or you need more robust tires.
Sidewall tears are the Achilles heel of tubeless setups.
We have a LOT of rocks around here and sometimes to get my heart rate up I need to really hammer, if I hit a rock just wrong at that speed... psssssssssss...I got nothing that can help you. I've never seen pinched a tire on the treads. How the hell are you doing that?
I've been running more pressure. Standard for me was 35psi... up to 40+ now... that's a lot for a tubeless IMHO, especially for a 165lb guy.I gotta think your only solution is to get a bigger tire then, and leave the race treads for race day use only.
700g for a tubeless tire seems REALLY light.I've been running more pressure. Standard for me was 35psi... up to 40+ now... that's a lot for a tubeless IMHO, especially for a 165lb guy.
I've only been on tubeless for about 3 months, so I'm still learning what works for me. 40+psi and michelin Wild racers seem to be a good combo. 700g tire, grippy, seal up very well... just need to be vigilant with checking my tire pressure before every ride.