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USA Cycling announces partnership with Strava :)

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  1. 'size

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  2. Willy Vanilly

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    Oh goodie oh goodie I don't give a f f about either!
     
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    so next year american racers will be banned from riding non usac sanctioned events, and will be banned if they do a training ride or race without strava?
     
  4. SCARY

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    Dear Santa:
    What the ****?!!
    If I'm on the bad list,then just don't get me anything.


    Does this mean I can only ride on approved Trails now?

    If I race myself,do I need to get USA Cycling insurance ?

    When they see how slow I really am,are they gonna take my pro card away?
     
  5. demo 9

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    KOMs should earn you free licenses
     
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    Sweet, I'd have about 10 free licenses then...STRAVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. Orangesicle

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    Does that mean all Strava rides are races?
    Wonder how much that tie in cost them...
     
  8. Mr Lahey

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    Can I get a KOM with a one day license?
     
  9. demo 9

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    USAC to use strava to peg the unsanctioned racers
     
  10. jnooth

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    so... if you race an unsanctioned race but use strava while doing so... does that make it sanctioned?
     
  11. General Lee

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    "A partnership with Strava . . . that provides a richer membership and training experience for USA Cycling members."

    Hmmm, so how does Strava provide a richer membership experience? Do tell


    "Ultimately, bringing USA Cycling members together in the Strava community is a great way to grow bicycle racing."

    Really? I always thought that fostering competition through a variety of different events was a good way to grow bicycle racing, but we already know USAC's feelings on that. So I guess encouraging more knuckleheads to race their local multi-use trails after work and d*ck swing their results on their member page is a good Plan B? Maybe they think it'll make the hikers buy bikes?
     
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  12. jonKranked

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    i'll care when the headline reads "USAC announces competent management"
     
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    USAC insurance now covers all liability when you mow down pedestrians in your KOM hunt.
    Now THAT'S added value.
     
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    I gotta say, I was pretty anti-strava for a long time for this very reason. But I downloaded it a couple weeks ago and from a data logging perspective it's awesome, I love seeing how many feet I've gained, speed graphs and maps, it's also great to see how many miles you're averaging a week/month etc. I've also used the "explore" feature to find new spurs on some of the trail systems I've ridden for years. The KOM thing is pretty cool but I have to agree that it does encourage more dangerous riding on multi use trails. I had a moment last week when I was railing through a rolling section of trail and came across some hikers, I pulled off and for a split second I was like "damn it, I probably had a good time" then I had a reality check and said "great now you're one of those F'ing KOM asshats." That was the one and only time since using Strava where I had an Ego trip and since then I've actually gone out of my way to be a more courteous riding because I know so many people are using Strava and they are probably pissing hikers off. So in a roundabout way Strava has actually made me more courteous and I go out of my way to pull off and make small talk with hikers and runners.

    Although, I'm probably in the minority.
     
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  15. jonKranked

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    i guess i'm a luddite, but i don't see the need to quantify everything. I still gauge my rides by how much fun I'm having. Get off my lawn you lousy kids!


    also, new title for mattmatt86 in bold
     
  16. bizutch

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    I can see the letters to USAC piling up as people protest their race result on the website by using their Strava lap as hard evidence of the discrepency.

    Form letter response:
    "Dear RACER, here is your digitally timed electronic result....compared to your digitally recorded Strava result. They do not concur. Congratulations! :thumb:"
     
  17. Jeremy R

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    I see it as the opposite. This is actually bad for Strava. This reminds me of another weird partnership when a young and fresh Julia Roberts (Strava) married Lyle Lovett (USAC). Strava actually provides a free and very useful service to its users. USAC not so much, neither free or useful.
     
  18. General Lee

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    Oh no you didn't just badmouth Lyle!!!
     
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    I don't give a crap about these tracking apps but from what I've heard there are plenty of good tracking apps (Locus, endomondo, ..) that accomplish what you describe above. Not accusing you of this at all, but I get the sense that Strava defenders use the 'I like the data logging features' line to avoid trying to defend their KOM asshattedness.

    When two riders follow each other on the same trail and start & finish 3 yards apart and Strava reports two different times since two different phones and GPS accuracy issues can lead to that discrepancy, I have a hard time taking Strava seriously at all.
     
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  20. demo 9

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    this, im always 5 seconds off my buddy's driod with my iphone
     
  21. mattmatt86

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    I've tried every app under the sun including locus and Endomondo and none of them even came close to how accurate Strava is. Endomondo would track me for half a mile then miss 5 miles then pick me up for 500 feet then lose me again. I would use strava for the accurate data logging regardless of the KOM feature, I'm not gonna lie and say I don't look to see how I stack up but I'm never going to let it put myself or any other trail users in danger. I ride some of my local trails fast, but not any faster now that I have Strava, if anything my new bike allows me to ride faster.
     
  22. Jeremy R

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    I bet he has a good personality!
     
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    Guess dopestrong can never use it now....
     
  24. rosenamedpoop

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    I kinda don't get the Strava hate...

    Is it really just Santa Cruz that has a downhill has right of way courtesy? I've been riding these trails for over 14 years, and if your riding/hiking up you listen like hell for chainslap & get out of the way if you hear someone coming down... Always made good sense to me. You earn the downhill by climbing, we all work together to stay out of the way. Strava just means you can have a semi accurate record of how fast you went. I raced for a long time, I enjoy racing the clock. "Enjoy", you know "like", as in "fun".
     
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    best software in the world can't overcome the fact that the gps chips used in cell phones are only accurate to within 10 feet at best [edit] and that's in ideal conditions - no obstructions (things like trees, mountains, etc). so in average riding conditions, that 10 feet of accuracy is more like 10 yards. puts a pretty wide margin of error into any of the "data" you get out of it [/edit]
     
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  26. bfrich

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    Strava is a fun app, do some people take the KOM and Segment portion way too seriously..YES. It is still a cheap way to track approximate miles, climbing and time on your bike. This winter during my busy season having a string of on rides on Strava helped to motivate keep me getting out the door each night and racing the local Crit on Sundays.

    I already have the phone so I didn't need to buy a garmin or other device for 200-400 bucks to track my hours on the bike.

    Not for everybody, Not perfect but still very useful.
     
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    you just need to get george using it too ;)
     
  28. mattmatt86

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    Considering whatever "data" I get out of it was free and only required me to download an app I'd say I'm pretty satisfied. I did a 25 mile ride with a guy a few weeks ago that had a 400 dollar Garmin and at the end of the ride the difference in "data" between my free app and his Garmin was less than 1%. For spending 0 dollars I'll take an error of 1%.
     
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    Before stava came along me and all my friends rode because we like to ride fast. Its always fun to see if you can drop your buddies on a decent or even a climb and this is a Cool semi acurate way to do that on every ride. It's what we do but now that there is an app to track it it seems to make what we do a big no no. The part I like about the leader board and the kom feature is it helps me not slack off. It lets me know where my fitness is at and how I'm riding. I can only speake for myself but I am not puting anyone's life in danger. If I see a hiker or a stopped rider I always pull off and give the rigt away. I have heard horror stories of people blowing people off the trails to get kom's but don't blame the app for the stupid people. For the rest of us it's a fun, accurate for the price way to track the way we normally ride
     
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    Just dropped in to say I beat two of my best "Segments" on tiny little climbing sections this weekend. Was riding/pushing my DH rig. On the descent, I posted the exact same time I had for my two previous "best efforts". It's fun and fun alone.

    Oh, if anyone wants to try a different logging software, "Run/Ride the Map" is more accurate than Strava because you can change the time delay between waypoint recording. Just be ready to eat up more battery life. You save the file to a .GPX and upload them to Strava later. I've never found a feature on my android Strava app that lets me change the time delay.

    The inverse(a plus for some) is you can set Run the Map to NOT burn battery by spacing out the time delay.

    More accurate as far as inaccurate phone GPS apps are concerned.
     
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    I read the title and had to post this.

     
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    not sure why this in the DH section when nothing matters unless you climb it to descend it
     
  33. SCARY

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    I need more of these green square things^^
    Strava works going down a hill, also.

    Not accurately, but still...