You need to first choose which style of shoe you want. Either the more casual looking "DH" style clipless shoes, like the Shimano MP66 or 5.10 offering, or the lighter/stiffer XC shoes, like a Shimano M183. I have both and use each of them. If you ride trails with stream crossings and you are likely to get your feet wet, I would recommend one of the more traditional XC shoes because they have less material and won't end up being boat anchors once they get wet.
What are those? Samples? They aren't listed on the site. Oh, and is it too much to ask for Vans to make them look like a pair of chocolate brown Rowley XLT's???
I've been on a pair for a few months now. One of the things that surprised me was their stiffness. I previously had a pair of 661 Filters that I ran into the ground, so maybe over time they got softer from their original stiffness.. The Filters were a great shoe and served me well.
Going to the Warners was tough due to the stiffness change, and they don't have an ideal cleat position. I was able to place the cleat where I wanted, but at the end of the side to side range. They bug me in another aspect too; the cleat isn't tucked in very tight. You kinda have that roadie-shuffle walking around in them. Still not as bad as a high-end MTB or road shoe. Lastly, they have a velcro strap near the top of the laces and it's at the end of it's adjustment for my feet. It's removable, but I prefer using it to add some tightness.
Hope this helps. They're still a great shoe, but not without fault.
The vans wont last long if you do any hike a bike. I like the Pearl Izumi Trans Alp. Its the only shoe Ive ever had last more than 2 seasons. I just bought the Shimano SH-MT53 shoe and they are super nice.
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