we really don't have that kind of elevation around here. Around here (bellingham) a 3-4 mile climb can give you almost 2,000 feet of elevation gain. So you either want a not so steep long climb or what? You are going to have to go up into the mountains if you want a serious climb of 10 miles length... Like climb up to mt baker ski area. Or climb over both passes on highway 20.... Or maybe highway 2 up to stevens pass. Maybe climb up I-90 to snoqualmie pass???Neal said:Ok - I'll try Kacheese this weekend - Crystal next weekend. I'm looking for dirt trails and I just couldn't think of any. Thanks,
Skookum said:Green Mt. and Capitol Forest and Galbraith can be good climbing trails since they're right off of the freeways. They may be more miles away but timewise it's a little over an hour. ).
Mountain Bikers fought the battle on Cougar years ago and lost- most of it was closed to bikers. Cougar would be the ideal place to have some trails open to bikes. Its the least steep of the Issaquah Mountains. The Talus development in Issaquah has set aside some pretty large opens space-maybe someday in the future some new trails?Skookum said:While on this topic, i just wanna complain on how frikkin stupid we don't have more legal trails open to mt. bikes in King County.
Just wanted to keep my stance on that fresh.
Good for you speedy.mattv2099 said:an hour???? wtf... that's a 20 minute climb to the towers... less if you are racing or tting. I go up from whatcom falls and hit the towers twice and it takes me not much more than 2 hours.
Maybe, King County is where most of us live, but there isn't anything to ride near the city. i'm glad you bring up Cougar, many of the trails up there were cut by the old skool mt. bikers. Then all this business of Middle Fork Snoqualmie being closed a second straight year to mt. bikes WHEN THE FOREST SERVICE HAS DEEMED MT. BIKERS HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO RIDE THERE. But due to stingy hikers they keep throwing a monkey wrench in the works to keep us out. It's b.s. i'd really love to have real epic trails close to the city, there's no real reason not to open up a few singletrack trails to multi-use, within King County. The only reason is ignorance and/or selfishness on a truly pathetic scale.Borregokid said:Mountain Bikers fought the battle on Cougar years ago and lost- most of it was closed to bikers. Cougar would be the ideal place to have some trails open to bikes. Its the least steep of the Issaquah Mountains. The Talus development in Issaquah has set aside some pretty large opens space-maybe someday in the future some new trails?
The truth is hikers barely use any of the trails because they have so many frikking trails open exclusively to them it's disgusting. But since they don't want mt. bikers ruining there "dream" solitude hippy nature feeling, they've been hording every last trail they can.Borregokid said:Cant agree with you more. I hiked some of those trails and very few hikers use the trails.
This is a little off topic from the thread, buuut:Skookum said:Then all this business of Middle Fork Snoqualmie being closed a second straight year to mt. bikes WHEN THE FOREST SERVICE HAS DEEMED MT. BIKERS HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO RIDE THERE. But due to stingy hikers they keep throwing a monkey wrench in the works to keep us out.
Thanks for the scoop. Someone needs to decommission the jerk.roundnround said:This is a little off topic from the thread, buuut:
It's not the hikers that obstructed the opening of the MF trail recently. There's an unrelated bit in the plan about closing the MF Rd (#56) beyond Dingford, and some jerk who doesn't believe in decomissioning roads has vowed to appeal that all the way to the end. That holds up the finalization of everything else in the MF plan.
The next appeals deadline is some time really soon. I don't think anything has been filed yet. Then we'll have to see whether the Forest Service is too busy with summer craziness to open the trail...