[gemini2k]

As I am sitting home sick today I've been watching my extreme moto enduro videos. I was thinking DH needs more competitions that are total torture for the racers, stuff like Erzberg, last man standing, romaniancs, etc. This stuff is great fun to watch. Something spectator friendly.

The rampage stuff and maybe champery come kinda close, but not close enough. We need some kind of race that only a small fraction of pros can really ride, one where they are just glad to be able to finish and are just in total misery the entire time. They need to stop making courses based on what the pro races find "fun" to ride, and just try and kill them. Thoughts?

Also, if you have examples, POST PICS!

 

[NY_Star]

That was called a plattekill race 5 years ago from what i have heard. Just without the length of course.

 

[bullcrew]

one where they are just glad to be able to finish and are just in total misery the entire time. Thoughts?

enduro DH mixxed single track some pedalling, stunts, drops jumps etcc... Kind of like a real world downhill domination.

 

[iandude94]

Something like a super gnar megavalanche would be sweet.

 

[bullcrew]

Something like a super gnar megavalanche would be sweet.

+10 thats the idea right there!

 

[MinorThreat]

5-up head-to-head 'Downhill-Cross' is coming to Eastern Washington. The venue has been located. Details need to be worked out. More to come . . . .

 

[ekimox]

It's too bad Mount 7 Psychosis is no more.

 

[gemini2k]

Something like a super gnar megavalanche would be sweet.

Something like that, but through barely rideable terrain. I'm talking long sections of 45%+ grades, giant boulder fields, 40-50ft doulbles. Sections that half the pros have to get off and walk. Needs to be long, like 8000ft vert drop or something. Minimal pedaling though I think. Well maybe just give them a section purely to tire them out before the gnarly stuff.

 

[gemini2k]

5-up head-to-head 'Downhill-Cross' is coming to Eastern Washington. The venue has been located. Details need to be worked out. More to come . . . .

Like the old Big Bear stuff? I watched some of that footage, kinda underwhelmed by it. I suppose it could be cool. But it would be VERY hard to do right. I mean almost no one can even do 4x right.

 

[MinorThreat]

^^ Got any links so that I can see what it was? Don't want to repeat mistakes; but tired of the same old game too.

 

[gemini2k]

^^ Got any links so that I can see what it was? Don't want to repeat mistakes; but tired of the same old game too.

Hmm, the only footage I've seen of it is in synopsis, the clay porter video. It just looks like it suffers from the same problems as 4x. It's Just a holeshot out of the gate, difficult to really pass, etc.

It's a cool idea, I just have no idea how you'd make it work and be interesting without making a brand new trail completely designed for this kinda race. Even then, I have no idea what that trail would look like!

 

[WBC]

The Hill:

Race Day:

The winner:

 

[bullcrew]

Bear rocked, theres still some good lines (legit of course ) that run some beasty drops and straight down blown out chutes that you corner on or try to avoid going over 25' to the crap below. LOL we have a few good runs there and then the rock gap under the lift is not used and get you kicked off as its completely open and an illegal trail so we wouldnt want to run that! thumb

But yeah Big Bear has some seriously nasty backwoods lines, I followed atomic adam in andhe made the left turn I came off a log drop into boulders and jagged rocks (12"+ rocks), made it but scared the skittles out of me! LOL
Theres some good and nasty stuff there!!!!

 

[chance199]

what about Test The Metal in Squamish B.C.?

 

[gemini2k]

what about Test The Metal in Squamish B.C.?

DOWNHILL events? Booo xc.

 

[xy9ine]

i do like the idea of the garbonzo dh. 15-20min pinned dh. use the whole mountain top to bottom. better bang for your buck as a competitor. small mistakes don't have the same consequence, more emphasis on fitness & tactics (when to pin, when to conserve) etc. still knarley & fast enough to justify the big bike.

 

[gemini2k]

small mistakes don't have the same consequence,

No no, we need small mistakes to have big consequences, TORTURE is the key word here. Just finishing the race needs to be an achievement.

 

[demo 9]

No no, we need small mistakes to have big consequences, TORTURE is the key word here. Just finishing the race needs to be an achievement.

downhill starting from the bottom, Force to run 3.0 tires and super slack HAs. Winner makes it up-period!

 

[Squam_DH]

Something like that, but through barely rideable terrain. I'm talking long sections of 45%+ grades, giant boulder fields, 40-50ft doulbles.

If you are looking for a race this dangerous maybe you should insure and organize the event.

 

[bullcrew]

If you are looking for a race this dangerous maybe you should insure and organize the event.

OOOH I my mr serious sensors are tingling! Do I feel the prescence of:

 

[joelsman]

multiple laps on garbonzo use the hard trails up top and joyride down lower or clown shoes, hahahahaha

 

[MinorThreat]

^^ . Crack Addict race in the rain.

 

[DirtyMike]

Something like that, but through barely rideable terrain. I'm talking long sections of 45%+ grades, giant boulder fields, 40-50ft doulbles. Sections that half the pros have to get off and walk. Needs to be long, like 8000ft vert drop or something. Minimal pedaling though I think. Well maybe just give them a section purely to tire them out before the gnarly stuff.

I think everything but the doubles. The air time would give them too much of a break in between tech sections...




One of my favorite clips..... check the head smash at 28 seconds


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1703727862679379286&ei=0UdZS_KSFoH0qwOW9P3wAw&q=mountain+bike+crashes+compilation&emb=1#

 

[BigHitComp04]

I dunno how many pros would be psyched on doing a race like that. Seems they could easily injure themseleves and ruin the season.

 

[Whoops]

Uh yeah, awesome idea dude.





oh wait, hang on... Mr Reality just phoned in to say 'no'.

 

[buckoW]

There is room to add another 2 minutes to the Champery track. The trail is already built and we would just have to move the start to the top of the hill. That would be pretty brutal on your body and brakes.

 

[frango]

I think, race track entirely like top section of Alpe d'Huez MegaAvalanche would be cool but as Pic Blanc seems to be too small, I'd move the event to i.e. Peru or Bolivia
We could legaly use coca leafs to avoid height sickness

 

[PatBranch]

^^ . Crack Addict race in the rain.

hahaha I hate that trail. The ladder at the end was waay slicker than I thought... I ended up riding into a tree on the left.

 

[monkeyfcuker]

Haha this is turning into a cool thread!

For sheer torture the No Fuss Fort William endurance event was pretty gnarly, pedal half way up on a fireroad for your first run then do as many runs as possible in 6 hours! That was fecking sore!! Extend the time and add night riding and your onto a winner I reckon!

 

[Gary]

free bar at the bottom would be gnarlier

 

[bullcrew]

Uh yeah, awesome idea dude.





oh wait, hang on... Mr Reality just phoned in to say 'no'.

Thats just because his wife was sitting right there!

 

[metalhead119042]

Psychedelic Megavalance: Every rider takes a hit of acid the morning of the race.

 

[gemini2k]

I dunno how many pros would be psyched on doing a race like that. Seems they could easily injure themseleves and ruin the season.

Plenty of people do stuff like this in the moto world; Best trick comps at x-games, erzberg enduro, etc. Stuff more or less designed to injure/maim/kill them. Are DH pros less badass?

 

[gemini2k]

Haha this is turning into a cool thread!

For sheer torture the No Fuss Fort William endurance event was pretty gnarly, pedal half way up on a fireroad for your first run then do as many runs as possible in 6 hours! That was fecking sore!! Extend the time and add night riding and your onto a winner I reckon!

Maybe something like that would be sweet. Some kind of pro-endurance race. Perhaps do as many laps on some of those gnar gnar central california trails as possible in 12 hours. The shuttle road up is as much a test as anything you'll ride down.

Didn't they do some kinda endurance DH race at angelfire last year?

Maybe they could do something like that at Mammoth on chainsmoke or bullit. The elevation combined with the brutal terrain would be quite torturous.

 

[Trekrules]

Ingredients for a torture DH event

- 1 World Cup track(no canberra and Willingen) like Fort William,Champery or Val di sole
- 300 riders
- Worst weather conditions like heavy rain fall
- Worst track conditions
- For each lap they need to drink 1 shot of Whisky or other strong liquor

Let them ride for 24 hours

 

[DirtyMike]

I miss 12 hours of DH.......

 

[gemini2k]

Ingredients for a torture DH event

- 1 World Cup track(no canberra and Willingen)

I dunno man, you'd probably start to torture people with those doubles on willigen. At hour 18 people would DEFINITELY be messing those up and getting hurt.

 

[w00dy]

The Whiteface 5K is pretty bad.

 

[davec113]

I'm going to do the Red Bull Burner at Angel Fire this year...

 

[Trekrules]

downhill from the Mt.Everest with out brakes