The 40 doesn't have any oil seals in it. Doing an air mod like a boxxer would be a royal pain in the ass. All it has is foam rings to keep dirt out and a wiper to clean the stanchions. The cart is sealed, and that is where the real seals are as it isn't an open bath fork a la Marz.
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like transcend said, take some time to adjust the internal bottom out settings. 05 to 06 there is barely any change in bottom out resistance. 07 there is HUGE change. if you still bottom out 07 forks then there is definitely something up with your riding. the go-ride springs were made pre 07. they are not needed, not for bottoming out, unless you like a progressive fork.Thanks
I rode these forks with multiple springs and just about every single compression damper setting possible.
They just don't work that well in my mind. There's a lot of adjustment to them but the 'right setting' doesn't fall in the range for what I'm looking for. And Castle's point is exactly on. EVERY YEAR they've claimed to up the bottom out resistance. If he and I were the only ones complaining about this I doubt fox would care. Even go-ride made some two stage springs to address this problem. Even if there were a modification that I knew about to give them some ramp up, I'd probably own one. But as of right now I don't know of a way to get them to perform the way I want. (edit: I don't want to pay for a new 40 AND the go ride springs right off the bat
It's also not just big guys. I weigh 165.
I will say this though. I've got some friends with them that other than replacing seals regularly, really like the things. But sitting on their bikes, they run their suspension stiffer than I like on a dh rig. So for them it works. For me, it doesn't.
Jeesh.... I've only spent a little bit of time on the 07s and none of that fine tuning the fork, just borrowing some bikes for a run or two. In both cases the forks were setup too stiff for so not much info there, but I'll grant you the 07s may have fixed the bottom out problem.
I just have yet to be impressed by ANY fox 40, and I've listed my reasons.
sorry if i come across as being defensive, just trying to have a discussion thats all.Jeesh.... I've only spent a little bit of time on the 07s and none of that fine tuning the fork, just borrowing some bikes for a run or two. In both cases the forks were setup too stiff for so not much info there, but I'll grant you the 07s may have fixed the bottom out problem.
But as far as the seals go...........I'm talking about brand new forks purchased at the beginning of last season that have CONSTANTLY needed new seals. At 19 I don't imagine you're too big of a guy and probably aren't subject to a lot of the complaints mentioned here. But there's a whole population of DHers in northern california whom I see every weekend with these forks in the summer. And as often as not, looking at a 40 means looking at all the dirt collected in the oil seeping out of the thing.
Trust me on this.
FWIW, the totem on my freeride bike has the same problem with its seals so don't think I've just got some personal vendetta against the fork you like.
Isn't the very slight amount of oil on the stanctions there for lubrication?
Preventing bottomout in the last inch of travel or whatever is not really the same as "progressive" travel. It's then only progressive for that last inch. Not quite the same thing as "progressive" would apply to the entire stroke.
yea, i get what you mean. it comes down to what each person would think is a better set up for dh. linear spring with damping to stop bottoming, or less damping and a progressive spring to stop bottoming.
That doesn't really make sense though. You're suggesting that a fork should blow through most of it's travel and then change rates to prevent bottomout? That's what it sounds like, because the "progressive" nature of a fork doesn't have to be provided by an adjustable air spring/volume, but it's one way to do it and a pretty simple/effective way, but not the only way. If a progressive fork is not a good solution, what the heck is?
That's because you haven't tested my custom "Sky Valved" DH40 that was designed for teh ultimate HuxXor!!
That casting issue was in the original forks from 05, and the castings were produced in 04. There was a number on the back of them that gave it away.
While I am a Marzocchi fan true and through, I will add to this that Marzocchi also had Casting issues with early 888's. More specifically oil leaking through the lowers, they were great about fixing them, and havent had the problem since........
Boxxers require less maintenance then 40's??
It does when the new 40 absolutely kicks ass and you are the importer for Boss forks like ole Supercow.Boxxers require less maintenance then 40's??
Not bashing man, just jiving.
