Which time! I didnt ask for permission seeing as how her dad knocked up her mom without permission i felt it was ok for me to skip the tradition(plus he could be a real d!ck) so there we were Look out point between P-town and Chico on valentines day. I handed her a box of See's chocolates (the ring was in the center wrapper. She couldnt figure out why I wanted her to open the box must have figured i wanted to eat her candy. Once she got the hint(i opened the box and handed her the center candy wrapper) I said will you marry me it was kinda lame I now but i was only 19. We then broke up about a year later and then after about another year we started dating again and 3 months into that i looked at her and said "So, are we getting married or are we just gonna keep f*%kin every other day!!" 10 years later still in wedded bliss though the sex has dropped off some