[PatBranch]

My 5th element on my bullit is blown.

Should I get a Romic or a DHX5 (more money) ?
I found a good deal on a Romic and I'm really thinking about getting it.

 

[dest]

get an avalanche you cant go wrong??? its the best shocks money can buy.....

 

[PatBranch]

Those are big and heavy.

 

[Arena_Swe]

I've got a 06 Roco on my bullit, it's really nice.

You should check the Roco, it's an alternativ.

Good Luck

 

[Zark]

Those are big and heavy.

And expensive, and over damped, and over hyped.

DHX

 

[PatBranch]

Roco's are nice, but I need a pedaling platform.

 

[DVNT]

SC is still selling rear shocks for 100 bucks.
http://www.santacruzbicycles.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=25_72

get a swinger and if you don't like you can always use it as a back up.

EDIT-> new sites up.
Interesting...
Looks Like the VPFree finally got a 1.5 HT.

 

[ThePriceSeliger]

If it is the same sized shock from a C-Dale Gemini, I have a Swinger 6-way with Ti spring.

 

[PatBranch]

Thanks for the offer, but I think I want the fox.

 

[hungryleprican]

I have a fifth on my sunday.... im thinking of replacing it before next season... any ideas?

(i dont mean to try and take over this post.. i just need advice)


i would go for the dhx. i had one on my last bike, its amazing how much difference it makes

 

[PatBranch]

You're not taking it over at all. Just adding to it. Thanks for more good info on the dhx.

 

[seismic]

And expensive, and over damped, and over hyped.

DHX

 

[Eren]

dhx 5 or roco

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Double

 

[LokiLopez]

Are the 07 Roco already available to the public?

 

[Kntr]

Triple


Roco or Avy. The new Avy Montie is the same price as the DHX and weighs only a little more. Do a little reasearch about the Avy before putting it off.

 

[Zark]

Someone break out the pom poms, the Avy cheerleaders are here!

 

[seismic]

Someone break out the pom poms, the Avy cheerleaders are here!

....and so are the haters !!

 

[Transcend]

He didn't ask about an avy, he has 3 options he is interested in. He has already stated he doesn't want one. There is a reason people bag on the product cheerleaders.

 

[loco-gringo]

I tried a DHX for a bit. I liked it ok. I think Fox are a good deal more stable than 5ths for sure. I know lots of folks that like Romics though.

I know you didn't say Double Barrel, but they are sexy.

 

[seismic]

I have had 2 Romics...non of them held up for more than a month and the SC was terrible...cant recommend

 

[Transcend]

I have had 2 Romics...non of them held up for more than a month and the SC was terrible...cant recommend

I had the same experience with 1 actual romic and 5 RCRs (before the name change). The 1 romic i had to try leaked out of all of the knobs and it seemed like the damping woudl eb fine one hit, and non-existant the next?

The rcrs were just complete garbage that had no working adjustments and blew up literally, at least once a race.

 

[Bearmntpicnic]

Double barrel

 

[Rip]

Put a solid steel block in it and ride it as a hardtail.















Before someone goes and tears my head off, just kidding.

Get the DHX.

 

[Bicyclist]

DHX. Look for a used one or an OEM 3-4 to save money.

 

[davep]

Are the 07 Roco already available to the public?

None of the bigger distributors have them available yet.

 

[DHCorky]

but I need a pedaling platform.

And you asked about a Romic:huh:

I have heard rumors of Romic going away.

 

[Slacker]

And you asked about a Romic:huh:

I have heard rumors of Romic going away.

If true, they really dug their own grave with the massive & multiple failures, even after warranty repairs. That's one company I'll never-ever do business with again. Do any frame mfg'ers even use them anymore

It is a shame because they had some great potential. Many of us really liked the feel of the shock... when it worked. I'm still using one on my XC bike that has been bomb proof.

 

[JRogers]

Triple


Roco or Avy. The new Avy Montie is the same price as the DHX and weighs only a little more. Do a little reasearch about the Avy before putting it off.

Fine then. I voted for the DHX. I think the Avy, besides the fact that he didn't mention it, is more expensive, overdamped and overhyped. And I've owned an Avy mounted on a Bullit.

 

[Kntr]

A Avy Montie is $399.
A DHX is $399.

Last I checked 399=399.

Mine was "overdamped" too when I first got it. I had to have it revalved once. Then it felt perfect. The shock must be valved correctly to your style and bike that you are riding. Did you ever send your Avy back to Craig and have it revalved? If not then you are complaining about a untuned shock. Craig will usually do one free revalving. The two Avys Ive had needed to be revalved but Craig got them spot on the second time. Yes, it takes a little time. You can buy another shock that has a generic tune and you can tune it youself. That is the bonus of other shocks. Ill still run an Avy.

 

[PatBranch]

The Avy Montie sounds pretty good, but I really like the ProPedal feature on the dhx.

Good idea on finding an OEM one bicyclist. I would get a 4 (is bottom out resistance that important?).

 

[Bicyclist]

Honestly I don't think so. I run a 4 on my Demo and the reality is I don't think I'd use the bottom out if I had it (I don't on my Enduro, which has a 5 air).

 

[PatBranch]

Okay, thanks! If I sent it to fox to be custom valved, how much would that be?

 

[PatBranch]

Thanks for all the help everyone. The dhx5 would be really nice, especially pro-pedal, but $400 is just too much. Despite the poll , I got a Romic from Sanjay ($125 is way cheaper than $400). I put it on the other day, and it's such and improvement. Plush while progressive, or maybe it feels progressive to me because my 5th was so messed up.

The romic weighs noticably less. Maybe 40% lighter. This thing would be so light with a Ti spring. The body weighs way less than the stock spring.

 

[Kntr]

Romics are not bad, when they work. Keep your eye out for leaks and listen for weird sounds. I loved my Romic, when it worked. It felt pretty close to an Avy, when it wasnt leaking. It pedaled as well as a PUSHED Fox, when it wasnt at Romic. You get the idea. Its a great shock... most of the time.

 

[PatBranch]

Thanks for the advice on what to listen for!

 

[erikkellison]

I would have gotten another 5th for that bike from SC for $99. The 5th always felt great on mine. I have a DHX5 Air now, and I like it too though. But $100 vs. $400? I'll take $100, please.

 

[PatBranch]

I never really liked the way my 5th felt (even when it worked). It didn't feel active at all.

I love my Romic. It's so plush, but still stiff at the end. The adjustments are so nice (rebound and compression). Maybe a few clicks is normal for a shock, but on my Rockshox Judy xl fork and super deluxe shock I had on my level betty, the adjustment knobs did nothing, but spin forever (yes, they were a POS's). My jr.T's rebound adjusters spin for a long time, before I notice a difference.

With the romic, it's probably like 12 clicks total on each. It's so nice to be able to twist it a few times and completely change the movement of it.

 

[erikkellison]

I never understood this dead/active lingo. I like a shock to feel dead, well, dead, as I understand it. Active to me means springy and prone to excessive movement. Dead means that it moves just enough for the terrain, with no excessive movement, and simply soaks up the bumbs well with no springing. Dead seems ideal, active is how I would describe my old Vanilla R.
Granted, I never did try anything else on that bike, but I did like the way it felt. The VP-Free was better, but most of that can be attributed to the Roco, which made small bump compliance and big hits better. The VPP made pedaling better, but that's OT.
My new DHX Air also feels dead, and I like it. It sucks up just enough of the bumps, but doesn't move excessively. It always makes it back to center travel, but doesn't pogo or bob or otherwise move in excess. I say dead is good!