My thoughts exactly. My gut tells me placing a derailleur pulley in the same location would result in a similar outcome.Rear derailleur pulleys aren't set into a plastic pocket where mud/dirt can collect and pack up
My thoughts exactly. My gut tells me placing a derailleur pulley in the same location would result in a similar outcome.Rear derailleur pulleys aren't set into a plastic pocket where mud/dirt can collect and pack up
While I am not sure about the road bike stuff, IIRC the old LX derrailurs used bushings in each jockey wheel, the XT used one bushing and one bearing, and the XTR used 2 bearings. It's been years since I've pulled one apart though, so I could be wrong.I have the same problems as Seb. Frankly, a ceramic or plastic bush is far more appropriate. If the extra friction isn't worrying the roadie crowd with their Dura-Ace, then it sure won't worry a bunch of DHers.
I've never and I mean never cleaned my old xt or my Saint jockey bearings. They are still smooth as.
I'll be damned if I have to grease my sealed bloody bearing. It's a good thing E-13 uses a proprietary bearing, cause then they get to charge $25 for a new one. Thanks guys.
By old xt I mean et shadow. They as well as saint use a ceramic bushing in the guide wheel and sealed bearings in the pulley wheel. Really I'd like to see an IGUS bush in there.While I am not sure about the road bike stuff, IIRC the old LX derrailurs used bushings in each jockey wheel, the XT used one bushing and one bearing, and the XTR used 2 bearings. It's been years since I've pulled one apart though, so I could be wrong.
-KT
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The Freechucker is a new type of chain retention system inspired by everyday riders who ride hard and ride frequently in muddy and low maintenance conditions.
So....You could just remove the idler on an LG/SRS and have zero maintenance?
Keep in mind that the FCKR is not designed for race applications. The FCKR is a member of our price point/ entry level family. Its heavier and has less bells and whistles than the SRS+ and LG1+. It exists solely for riders who want bash plate style retention and aren't going to do any maintenance ever, or until the wheels stop spinning anyway. This thing is AWESOME for drops to flat and the like.So....You could just remove the idler on an LG/SRS and have zero maintenance?
I hope that service of the "jockey wheels" only took 2 minutes. Because DW said thats how long it would take..................I have two E13 guides in the garage right now, both were in good rotation all through the summer last year in the northwest including several very wet weekends in Whistler. I pressure wash my bike carefully when riding Whistler (the border guards get weird about importing caked Canadian mud???) and do routine maintenance but I don't take the time to change my fork oil monthly or pop up my wipers to lube my seals before every ride.
I have had exactly two seized bearings and they both happen to be happily unseized now.
On both the LG1 and the SRS the jockey wheel stopped spinning pretty quickly and on both I took it out, removed the seal with a dental pick, sprayed them out with isopropyl alcohol or brake cleaner or whatever was handy, and repacked them with general purpose synthetic high pressure grease from NAPA, again, it's what was handy and it's purple so at least it was cool last year...
I wouldn't be surprised if I have to repeat this again this year and I won't be upset.
The jocky wheel on the chainguide is in a much worse location than the one on the deraileur. Mud from both the front and rear tires is flung directly at the chainguide and it doesn't have much room to shed the mud and dirt. The rear der. will never catch mud off the rear tire, it's a long ways from the front tire, and short of dunking it in a very deep mud puddle I don't really think it catches as much junk as the chainguide. It's also a much more open design and will shed the dirt easier.
I don't think it's really an apples to apples comparison.
I don't have this problem. Also, you seem to be confusing "advice" with "ridicule".to me this is a company trying to ridicule a customer who has the same problem as everyone else.
They ARE addressing the problem. There's no such thing as a perfect bearing; exposure to dirt, grit, and moisture WILL shorten the life of a bearing. They require maintenance, plain and simple.Rather than address a problem they have turned to internet ridicule to try and belittle the problem.
What does that have to do with anything? Red herring.We have one chairlift in the country and thats only open for a few months in the summer.
I maintain my bike and yet sh*t still breaks. If you want a bearing that's gonna last 2 seasons of riding in wet muddy conditions with no maintenance and not fail, be prepared to pay $300 for it.The fact is, Seb does maintain his bike. I maintain my bike, and I know other people who have the same problem with e13, and so does he. I only know of Seb in the uk seen, Im not his buddy sticking up for him.
I was being facetious with the $300 remark.$300?
The bearings in SPD pedals seem to be pretty much indestructible and they sure as hell don't cost $300. I came off a pretty big log ride and fell into a creek (along with my bike) and the peal bearings were pretty much the only ones still working and they are still going strong to this day... it can be done.
Not to ridicule you or anything but FreeChucKeR would be to only pronunciation sir. Whatever do you mean?why the letters FCKR. surely you know it DOESN't get pronounced Free Chucker. some internal joke. clue us up E.13..
so what do you want them to say? let me know when you find a maintenance free bearing. it will make you a rich man. i would love to see what your suspension bearing feel like. or your hub bearings. do those ones not need servicing either?Lovebunny I totally disagree, to me this is a company trying to ridicule a customer who has the same problem as everyone else. Rather than address a problem they have turned to internet ridicule to try and belittle the problem. Stupid pinkbike articles don't help either. We have one chairlift in the country and thats only open for a few months in the summer.
The fact is, Seb does maintain his bike. I maintain my bike, and I knowther people who have the same problem with e13, and so does he. I only know of Seb in the uk seen, Im not his buddy sticking up for him.
NSK used to do a stainless steel, solid grease bearing. A normal ball bearing, with stainless steel races and balls, with a self-lubricating plastic injection molded around the balls. (hurr hurr hurr - i said balls). I can't remember the name they had for them but I used them in two applications at my work where no amount of sealing would stop grit and grime washing into conveyor bearings.so what do you want them to say? let me know when you find a maintenance free bearing. it will make you a rich man. i would love to see what your suspension bearing feel like. or your hub bearings. do those ones not need servicing either?
No offense but are you retarded? We beat the utter **** out of these bikes and products and somehow seem to demand more and more for less and less. Good lord, how often is it that a company will post here and offer up some good solid advice? Not every often. It's going to be even less often when twats like you try to slag them for offering advice. It's a ****ing part on what is easily the most abused bike on the planet.Lovebunny I totally disagree, to me this is a company trying to ridicule a customer who has the same problem as everyone else. Rather than address a problem they have turned to internet ridicule to try and belittle the problem. Stupid pinkbike articles don't help either. We have one chairlift in the country and thats only open for a few months in the summer.
The fact is, Seb does maintain his bike. I maintain my bike, and I know other people who have the same problem with e13, and so does he. I only know of Seb in the uk seen, Im not his buddy sticking up for him.
No offense but are you retarded? We beat the utter **** out of these bikes and products and somehow seem to demand more and more for less and less. Good lord, how often is it that a company will post here and offer up some good solid advice? Not every often. It's going to be even less often when twats like you try to slag them for offering advice. It's a ****ing part on what is easily the most abused bike on the planet.
Maybe some of you UK guys need to spend a little more time in the pub loosening up or at the very least wash the sand out of your vagina.