I know this is kicking a dead horse, but here you go. Poor 20 year old "good kid" dead in Maryland.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/19/taser.death/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/19/taser.death/index.html
Yet another Tazer death
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Forgive my ignorance on the subject. The group touts the taser as giving off a "low energy discharge" in disputing taser-relating deaths. However, that low energy discharge can easily down a man that weighs the same as a hippo. Right.
Interesting and sad.
Interesting and sad.
High Volt, Low Amperage is probably their comeback to that.
The name of this forum needs to be changed to Politics, World News & Deadly Tazer Incident Forum. Maybe a whole tazer forum is in order.
YES!
Ahh, even more interesting. I have to admit that my knowledge of electricity (other than the simple basics) is also lacking.
Defibrillators are not crazy powerful either, are they? I recall hearing or reading that somewhere, but a brief 45 second Google search can't confirm it.
Volts are necessary to overcome the body's natural resistance. Amps do the killing.
amps and volts are a multiplier of each other in overcoming resistance, so even low volt, 10amps will toast you.
I don't remember the formulas from school, but ya need to look at all variables when talking about it, in addition to a person's natural resistance. If someone's covered in water, they're fvcked.
If someone's got a rubber vest on, a tazer will do nothing if it hits the rubber.
amps and volts are a multiplier of each other in overcoming resistance, so even low volt, 10amps will toast you.
I don't remember the formulas from school, but ya need to look at all variables when talking about it, in addition to a person's natural resistance. If someone's covered in water, they're fvcked.
If someone's got a rubber vest on, a tazer will do nothing if it hits the rubber.
Anyone, whose parents named him, Jarrel (and he didn't change it of his own volition...) deserves to get tazed.
Random electricity quote:
Just for the record it takes 100mA to stop your heart.
I always figured that 110v (standard wall power) hurt but I'd live (I've had a few experiences and I'm still alive)....220 would very likely put you down for a few....
However, with 110v wall power you're looking at 15 amps or so....well...jack up the voltage 10 fold and it don't matter if it's 3 or 25 amps...you gonna hurt...I thought that was pretty common sense...but I guess that's just me....
I've taken a shock from a 480V 30A service through the armpit. Luckily I had on rubber soled shoes and was standing on thick carpet with thick padding. A color blind electrician wired up power to the ground lug on an electrical cabinet at a trade show. The fuses never blew because the cabinet was still turned off and locked out. The chrome bolt I leaned against had full juice going to it. I drank heavily that evening.
That's good for business.
Close, but not exactly. FWIW, I studied electronics in college, but found it rather simplistic and switched into IT. L'Ooopie's closest to right on the equations.
This website:
http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-ohm.htm does a good job of showing all the various equations.
However, L'Ooopie is wrong about the water and rubber.
Water is a good conductor because it has a low resistance, but it does nothing to change your own resistance. Because tasers fire barbs into the victim, outside resistance is irrelevant.
Rubber is a good insulator because it has a high resistance. If the barbs penetrate the rubber layer, the resistance of the rubber again becomes irrelevant. If the barbs embed into the rubber, but do not penetrate it, there would need to be a high level of current (amperage, or I in the equation) to overcome the resistance of the rubber. At a high enough level of current, even rubber can be overcome, but I am fairly certain that tasers do not produce a high amperage jolt.
Transcend's quote:
is not exactly true because at low resistance and low voltage you can have a lot of amperage. It depends upon the 4th variable missing from the source you quoted... Power.
just for the record around 1985 a nuke ET in the navy killed himself by putting a multimeter on reistance mode and stabbing the probes into his finger tips....the multimeter put out 30 volts, and with no skin reistance it was enough to kill him going directly across his heart
A taser as I remember uses an extremely low current, a few milli-amps so it's almost impossible for it to kill someone from stopping their heart. The probes also hit a couple of inches apart, and almost none of the current travels through the heart.
At least the son of Jarrel would have lived.
Taser international can lick my electrified balls.
Yes 'other factors' can contribute but the fact remains in these cases: no tazer = no death.
Smith and wesson should come out with a PR campaign claiming deaths from their bullets were due to 'other factors' such as 'poor clotting'.
Yes 'other factors' can contribute but the fact remains in these cases: no tazer = no death.
Smith and wesson should come out with a PR campaign claiming deaths from their bullets were due to 'other factors' such as 'poor clotting'.
my wife is almost 9 months pregnant.
Ya I have read that about the navy guy. He was using the MM to measure his own resistance with a 9v battery. The inside of you is a much better conductor than skin.
I hope you remember that when the cop pulls out his 9mm, misses and the stray bullets hit you instead.
Tis the life o' da gangsta yo.
I'm always round gun play.
Because god knows the only alternative to a tazer is a 9mm fired wildly.
But the taser puts a resistor in series with your body.
I had a physics prof put 10,000 volts through me, but in series with a 1 mega-ohm resistor. It was a sharp tickle.
Yeah but where did it tickle?
Well "10,000 volts" was my pet name for his cock.
That one is way better than the one I made from the Taser international web site.or at least taser smiley
Mine may be more authentic, but yours is more fun!
Anyone who use a tazer on a 9 month pregnant woman should have his balls tazed at a minimum.
Yeah well that pregnant mom should think about that when she gets hit in the fetus with a stray RPG that ricochets off her other kids head and then bores to the center of the earth and ends humanity instead of being on the recieving end of the 100% proven safe for all of the population tazer that is placed only in the hands of the most mature, level headed and reasonable law enforcement officers.
that white lady at the end says "we've called animal control on these people before".
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