11 speed 11-50 cassette...
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Do you actually use those top end gears? I sure don't. I'd probably be fine with a 1 x 7, lopping off the 4 smallest cogs out back... but then again I like to coast when it goes downhill.So what it appears... is that if and when I get a new bike, I'm gonna need to get a 32 front chainring and a 9x50 cassette?
WTF. Are front derailleurs REALLY that fucking bad?
Fucking bike industry.
I've been riding a lot of downhill (really it's barely down) as of late that gets me in those smallest 4 cogs regularly. In my 42-tooth chainring to boot.
Perhaps I just need to change WHAT I ride.
I think I'm gonna demo a GG MT soon-ish, if for no other reason than to try out this 1x bullshit and see if I can tolerate it.
Yeah, with a jump that big between first and second, that's just a giving up on life gear.
I like this game. How wide is your handlebar?Of course I do.
, curse as much as you want about 1x11 and pie plate cassettes, but that shizz has its undeniable merit.It might sound counterintuitive, but this (southern) summer I actually got in worse shape than I was in the past winter. The main reason was temperature, holding above 37 Celsius for over two months, with 80% plus humidity. I just couldn't stand riding like that.
Anyway, I picked up a SunRace MX8 11-46 cassette to pair it up to my 32t front ring. It's basically an old 9-speed 11-36 cassette with two extra cogs in the lower end.
I like the stepping, and since it has enabled my fat ass to climb 10-mile-plus fire roads again, I couldn't be happier.
I don't usually spin out while going downhill because the nearest DH/Enderpo location I can go to has so many rocks and drops and so little pedal friendly sections I just put enough pedal stomping as to clear the jumps or get some speed after a tight turn.
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Ima try it... but will remain only cautiously optimistic.I really like the 1x setup. I was skeptical at first but I really like the simplicity of it and it's forced me to stop being lazy. I really think I should step up a couple teeth in front because I'm spinning out pretty easy going down but nah im fine being lazy
I'm beginning to think you are secretly in love with fatbikes and want one badly.FTFY
Bigger wheels need pie plate cassette cogs apparently. Which is convenient for the bike industry since they need to sell us more unnecessary crap.So what it appears... is that if and when I get a new bike, I'm gonna need to get a 32 front chainring and a 9x50 cassette?
WTF. Are front derailleurs REALLY that fucking bad?
Fucking bike industry.
26" wasn't broke and didn't need fixing.
What you're all failing to see with these fucking frisbee gears is that these aren't designed to give extra range. No. The bike industry just wants to lull you into a false sense of accomplishment by making it easier to pedal instead of pushing yourself to get into better shape so you don't need this kind of ridiculous fucking nonsense. The end game here is to get you to accept and ultimately purchase an e-bike. Dinner plate cassettes are just a stepping stone on that path. A big fucking useless 50T stepping stone.
Eventually the rear wheel will be replaced by a giant cog. You will be able to pedal up a wall as you spin like a squirrel on meth.
Don't you ever drop your chain? That's the only reason I ever went 1x. With clutch derailleurs and narrow-wide rings, I wasn't dropping chains anymore. Those two inventions and tubeless tires got rid of the two shittiest parts of mountain biking for me: dropped chains and constant flats. Any other "improvement" after that.... (10-42 cassettes, Boost, 650b)... I agree with you. Fucking bike industry.So what it appears... is that if and when I get a new bike, I'm gonna need to get a 32 front chainring and a 9x50 cassette?
WTF. Are front derailleurs REALLY that fucking bad?
Fucking bike industry.
SS isn't exactly a "fast" rider.Don't you ever drop your chain? That's the only reason I ever went 1x. With clutch derailleurs and narrow-wide rings, I wasn't dropping chains anymore. Those two inventions and tubeless tires got rid of the two shittiest parts of mountain biking for me: dropped chains and constant flats. Any other "improvement" after that.... (10-42 cassettes, Boost, 650b)... I agree with you. Fucking bike industry.
So, ES ET SAFE to run a narrow/wide chain ring despite running NO crutch derailleur??? (and thus removing 32 special chain guide)
Asking for a frenemy!
ESS EIT SAFE?!??!!?
Asking for a frenemy!
ESS EIT SAFE?!??!!?
ouch... burn!
what's he need a 42x11 (ring x cog) for then? extra tension on the derailleur so the chain doesn't fall off?
he just hasn't bought a bike in a long timeouch... burn!
what's he need a 42x11 (ring x cog) for then? extra tension on the derailleur so the chain doesn't fall off?
I am waiting for a derailleur with an extra hinge point to accommodate 8-75 tooth rear cassettes, then we can start looking for cassette guards for the rear wheel
If the cassettes become big enough, perhaps they'll be able to squeeze the derailleurs inside them? 
Like some sort of gearbox??If the cassettes become big enough, perhaps they'll be able to squeeze the derailleurs inside them?
Whoa. Math dudes. Whoever is buying a 46 or 50t cassette, and not changing their chainring, well they're special.
If you are interested in the most range (not spinning out, but ability to mimic a 2x), THAT is why you buy a 50t cassette. My buddy rides one, on a 29er, with a 36t ring. He can flyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down the trail, never spin out, and on the occasional time we need to take a gravel or paved road to connect Pisgah gnar gnar, he never spins out.
30t/42t gearing ratio = 0.714 (2.72 at 11t side)
36t/50t gearing ratio = 0.720 (3.27 at 11t side)
So practically the same gear on your steepest climb, but largely the gain is on the top end, top speed, top gun. For a very similar spinning option to your old setup.
When this stuff doesn't cost as much as a new fork, I'll make that move. For now, my 30/42 SRAM GX setup for $200-300 is gold.
If you are interested in the most range (not spinning out, but ability to mimic a 2x), THAT is why you buy a 50t cassette. My buddy rides one, on a 29er, with a 36t ring. He can flyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down the trail, never spin out, and on the occasional time we need to take a gravel or paved road to connect Pisgah gnar gnar, he never spins out.
30t/42t gearing ratio = 0.714 (2.72 at 11t side)
36t/50t gearing ratio = 0.720 (3.27 at 11t side)
So practically the same gear on your steepest climb, but largely the gain is on the top end, top speed, top gun. For a very similar spinning option to your old setup.
When this stuff doesn't cost as much as a new fork, I'll make that move. For now, my 30/42 SRAM GX setup for $200-300 is gold.
the problem with using the 120T on a cassette would be chain length and derailler clearance. with the ground.
Penny farthing, ground clearance problem solved.the problem with using the 120T on a cassette would be chain length and derailler clearance. with the ground.
Wouldn't that count as a dual-drive bike?the problem with using the 120T on a cassette would be chain length and derailler clearance. with the ground.
... which leads me to consider the changes in the AS curve, since the chain line wouldn't pass through (or below) the main pivot's placement... Dang, that thing would ride like a pogo stick...
yea, but you'd be able to climb up fuckin' anything
... or loop the bike around you, ending in your back, with just a quarter turn of your cranks...