Well as you seem to know what is going on maybe you can tell me how they have done so without altering the pivot locations.No, Turner have spent the last year sitting around with their thumb up the arse and are going to release a bike with dodgy pivots.
What sort of question is that? Turner don't make bikes half-arsed, everything is going to be DIALLED.
Yeah, it appears as though those bearings would be hating life after one muddy ride, but thats purely me being an e-speculator.I've thought all along that bike HAS TO come with an integrated fender, right out of the box. Wonder if it will.
Geometry is purely a subjective matter, to say that you had to drill the older version to get "better" geometry is an unfair statement.Yeah, they never do. You would never have to drill anything to get the geometry better on their bikes....
i believe DT said it was a materials and design issue, not a location issue.Well as you seem to know what is going on maybe you can tell me how they have done so without altering the pivot locations.
Thanks.
Hmmm interesting. Not sure I believe it though. With those pivot locations it almost looks designed to have really low torsional strength. He's a nice guy though so good luck to Mr Turner.i believe DT said it was a materials and design issue, not a location issue.
THe re-design was two-fold:Hmmm interesting. Not sure I believe it though. With those pivot locations it almost looks designed to have really low torsional strength. He's a nice guy though so good luck to Mr Turner.
oh christ it was supposed to be a damn joke. Everybody makes mistakes, and every product is "improved" upon, even if not all the people want it. Plenty of people are happy with their apple IIc.Geometry is purely a subjective matter, to say that you had to drill the older version to get "better" geometry is an unfair statement.
geez dude. you need a hug or what?oh christ it was supposed to be a damn joke. Everybody makes mistakes, and every product is "improved" upon, even if not all the people want it. Plenty of people are happy with their apple IIc.
When Sram buys em out that might all change, don't stressWhat is wrong with these guys, not prematurelly releasing a bike to the testing public only to have hundreds of warranty claims because they wanted it out by 09'. Bloody weirdo's.
The answers to all of your questions are readily available if you simply did a little digging on your own.....
'cause we are not in the business of selling DH frames that last months but years.[/B]
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That's the real problem with Turner. The DH fashionistas need a new bike every year so that the paint scheme matches their new TLD clown pajamas (pyjamas if you prefer). Who cares if it has a DW link. I mean really - houndstooth may work in 2010 but will be soooo last year come 2011. Why would anyone want a bike to last that long?
"This has been the biggest single model engineering project ever for Turner Bikes. For those that actually got to ride a proto, the changes to this bike will be lighter weight and stiffer in the junction between front and rear. The lower link that has proven to be the only problem to date has shafts that are double the the size of the proto and the alloy has been changed from 6061 T-6 to 7075, and the bearings are bigger than what Lars Peyer and Tyler Moreland have been on for months, 'cause we are not in the business of selling DH frames that last months but years.
DT"
I'm a giddy little school girl.For those that actually got to ride a proto, the changes to this bike will be lighter weight and stiffer in the junction between front and rear.
I remembered reading all that as well, just didn't remember where and didn't want to look it for others.How do I know all of this:
DW and DT have addressed all of these matters multiple times (I posted a quoted bit here a little while ago last time this came up)....in forums posts, and in the press release/frame info.
The answers to all of your questions are readily available if you simply did a little digging on your own.....
Shouldn't be hard to get a date for the prom with that attitude little lady.I'm a giddy little school girl.
Also, those square tube frames were designed long time ago now, the definition of "better" geometry has changed a lot since then, and it didn't stop guys like Sam Blenkinsop or John Kirkcaldie killing it anyway...Geometry is purely a subjective matter, to say that you had to drill the older version to get "better" geometry is an unfair statement.
Given. But how does the bike make you feel?I'm a giddy little school girl.
my 05 as well, im doing the drill out next weekend before it goes for paint.still have my soon to be drilled 2006 turner dhr going strong after a reweld and respray by turner,rides amazing and as good as any of the current designs today. once it dies,which probably wont be for a good while yet, then ill be getting one of these 2010/2011 weapons. they look an amazing bike so far