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I Are Baboon

The Full Dopey
Aug 6, 2001
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if i were case keenum....i would be leaving the rams at the end of the season.

fuck that team/coaches/players.
That was pretty messed up. JHFC everyone watching on TV could see that he got his bell rung. He couldn't even stand up straight. Jeff Fisher needs to lose his job and this is just one more thing heaped onto that pile.
 

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Turbo Monkey
Sep 18, 2009
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Hey, the lions won a game, and closed it out with a drive in the 4th quarter to run out the clock! This kind of stuff is unheard of!
 

ICEBALL585

Bacontard
Sep 8, 2009
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Forgot to post these up earlier this week but I was at the Bills vs Chiefs game this past Sunday in KC. Wife and I were there with a bunch of her family (who are all Chiefs fans). It was cold and rained most the day but still had a lot of fun. My wife's family parties just as hard as I do so shenanigans are always a given.


Pregame fun with the shot ski (that's me in the middle with the Bills jersey)


Sammy Watkins TD
 

stevew

resident influencer
Sep 21, 2001
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strike one against superbowl 50......coldplay playing halftime.
 

HAB

Chelsea from Seattle
Apr 28, 2007
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Lol Lions.

They got screwed though, that facemask never should have been called.
 

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Turbo Monkey
Sep 18, 2009
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Lol Lions.

They got screwed though, that facemask never should have been called.
They didn't get screwed, they didn't move the ball an inch after the first quarter, they never put the game away, they never ran the clock out, they settled for field goals late in the game, they committed how many stupid fucking penalties?

It was a good call at the end of the game, he may not have made the tackle with the facemask, but he still hit the facemask, if anything it should have been a 5 yard penalty for incidental but that still would have given the packers another chance.
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
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The facemask was called appropriately. In slow motion you can see that he got his hand in and out fairly quickly, but he hooked the bottom of the facemask and pulled Rodger's head around. In real-time, it was impossible to tell that he got his hand back out and even in slow motion, the facemask was clearly hooked and turned his head.

The Lions let 3 Packers receivers get in front of them on a 60 yard bomb to the end zone. This is one of those, you had one job! situations. Don't let the receivers box you out on a hail mary.
 

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Chelsea from Seattle
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Really think so? Based on this one it looks to me like he slaps the front of the mask, but never really hooked on it. But maybe that's why I'm not a NFL ref.

 

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Chelsea from Seattle
Apr 28, 2007
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Either way, the Lions' coverage on that play was awful. Like you said, you can't be letting Rodgers box out like that, and what the hell were the two guys who lined up on the 45 doing?



That's not how you defend a hail mary.
 

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Turbo Monkey
Sep 18, 2009
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It was a good call at the end of the game, he may not have made the tackle with the facemask, but he still hit the facemask, if anything it should have been a 5 yard penalty for incidental but that still would have given the packers another chance.
haha, I just realized the 5 yard incidental stopped happening in 2008

Really think so? Based on this one it looks to me like he slaps the front of the mask, but never really hooked on it. But maybe that's why I'm not a NFL ref.
A “face-mask” penalty is a judgment call that is not reviewable by replay.

Rule 12, Section 2, Article 5 of the NFL Rule Book (page 81) states that “no player shall twist, turn, or pull the face mask of an opponent in any direction.”

The Rule Book describes the penalty as follows:

“Penalty: For twisting, turning or pulling the mask: loss of 15 yards. A personal foul. The player may be disqualified if the action is judged by the official(s) to be of a flagrant nature.”

The Rule Book describes an approved ruling as it relates to face-mask penalties (page 81).

“A.R. 12.12 – Third-and-10 on A30. Runner A1 runs to the A33, where he is tackled by B1, who incidentally grasps A1’s face mask on the tackle, but it is not a twist, turn or pull. Ruling: A’s ball, fourth-and-seven, on A33. No foul.”
I think the biggest thing there is the turning of the head, it coincided with the arm swipe from the defender, and he did make at least some contact with the facemask. It definitely appeared to be a penalty in real time and to the naked eye.
 

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Turbo Monkey
Sep 18, 2009
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Either way, the Lions' coverage on that play was awful. Like you said, you can't be letting Rodgers box out like that, and what the hell were the two guys who lined up on the 45 doing?



That's not how you defend a hail mary.
They weren't defending a hail mary, they were defending another hook and ladder play. Idiots.

They left both 6-5 megatron and 6-5 ebron on the bench for a friggen hail mary. He also left Ziggy Ansah potentially a top 10 pass rusher this season sitting on the sidelines for a guaranteed pass play. Our coach is an idiot.
 

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You somehow missed the connection to Bradford beating the Patriots being an equally unlikely and nightmarish possibility.
Fair enough, but Bradford was at least at one point in his football career a winner. Whereas Timmy Tebow by all accounts has never been a banger.

But I see where you were going with it :D
 

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the teste
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Now that Carolina has clinched a buy it will be interesting to see if they rest players. Would suck if they lost key players to injury.
 

Westy

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I will say though that it is nice to watch a game where two players hate each other and want to rip each other's throats out. Two much bro-love among athletes these days. I want to see some entertaining anger and hate.
Why I love AFC North games. Every team hates each other.