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I based my math on this page: https://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-s/2013/long-term-road-test/2013-tesla-model-s-cost-of-gas-vs-electricity.html If his estimates of the Tesla's "mileage" are wrong, then my math will be bad.In all seriousness, please share your math underlying this. This is relevant to my interests.
23000mi/3(mi/kwh)=7666.7kwh
7666.7kwh*0.22$/kwh=1687$
23000mi/25mpg=920
920*2.55$/g=2346
2346-1687=659
75000 model s 75kw-alfa giulia 40,400= 34600
and the alfa gets 27mpg combined but probably requires premium.
tired cuz i was boning all nite.
I guess my bougie grilled cheeses (truffle butter FTW!) and portugese potato kale & chorizo soup was a hit.
going to see Star Wars tonight.
I guess my bougie grilled cheeses (truffle butter FTW!) and portugese potato kale & chorizo soup was a hit.
going to see Star Wars tonight.
Slyfink- changing the world one miserable mile at a time,
always soldier on, sally.
Push pins, glue and your favorite tire sealant will solve that.
Fair enough. If you really believe you can get 27 mpg combined in the Alfa, that premium will remain $2.55, and that you actually pay 22 cents/kWh then that makes sense.
I'd argue that a fair comparison would instead be to something of equal size, at least a 5 Series/E Class. Those are going to get around 20 mpg combined realistically.
Also note that electricity may well be expensive in your neck of the woods but can be cheap through moving elsewhere
or solar. I pay 9.9 cents/kWh after the first 500 kWh hour per each summer month, and 5.5 cents/kWh all winter from kWh #1 per month...
Everything about this is hilarious!
"Toots & Shoots" Definitely NOT a board game you wanna play.
Ok, fair enough. I use 5% in my projections, so 20 years @ 5% is $93k. If one's expenses were under $93k/5 years and one was furthermore set after that 5 years were up... but then again, if you were really that frugal then why weren't you retired already?
Good morning!
Didn't snag a jerb today, but that works out. The open enrollment deadline is tomorrow, so that gave me the morning to sort it out, then the rest of the day to finish up some shopping and maybe even get out on my faithful steed if time allows!
Didn't snag a jerb today, but that works out. The open enrollment deadline is tomorrow, so that gave me the morning to sort it out, then the rest of the day to finish up some shopping and maybe even get out on my faithful steed if time allows!
I told my 11 year old the "seems like someone peed in her suit today..." thing the other day and he gave me a look that said "...brilliant..." I'm sure he's used that a couple times with his friends by nowI feel like someone might’ve pissed in my cornflakes...
Night ride last night, twas good and fun and great temps. Night riding tonight will be much colder, and with a bit of snow on the ground. And I forgot a trail beer... and a trail flask... and a trail thermos.
#professionalamateurhour
#professionalamateurhour
too bad it was cloudy. you coulda been ridin with the meteorsNight ride last night, twas good and fun and great temps. Night riding tonight will be much colder, and with a bit of snow on the ground. And I forgot a trail beer... and a trail flask... and a trail thermos.
#professionalamateurhour
i tossed my jetboil in my car and made hot chocolate after yesterdays ride.Night ride last night, twas good and fun and great temps. Night riding tonight will be much colder, and with a bit of snow on the ground. And I forgot a trail beer... and a trail flask... and a trail thermos.
#professionalamateurhour
Note to self... purchase Jetboil.
The alfa is more of a joke. Of course it's not really a comparable car to the tesla....but it would take a lot of convincing for somebody to tell me that the model S is comparable to a 5 series on the inside. woodie has a model S, and it's plasticy and bare on the inside, with terrible leather and mediocre construction. He doesn't mind such things, but for me, if I'm spending beaucoup bucks on an auto, I demand to feel like an entire cow was sacrificed just so I have a nice place to sit.Fair enough. If you really believe you can get 27 mpg combined in the Alfa, that premium will remain $2.55, and that you actually pay 22 cents/kWh then that makes sense.
I'd argue that a fair comparison would instead be to something of equal size, at least a 5 Series/E Class. Those are going to get around 20 mpg combined realistically.
Also note that electricity may well be expensive in your neck of the woods but can be cheap through moving elsewhere
I think we can be confident that the price of electricity will only go up. If I can score solar panels, then of course all this math becomes moot, but that's an additional $20 I need to drop in order to have the privilege of driving a car that only goes 150mi before stopping (i'm not buying a model S).
The point I was trying to make is that if you're looking to save money, a good hybrid is better than a model S, and that if you're looking to save the planet, I'd be hard pressed into thinking that the model S was the best option. ICEs are really pretty efficient these days, and the model S remains a toy for the rich. With cars like the leaf and volt, we start talking a little less nonsense, but I think it'll be a while before even my uber-waspy family can be ICE free.
This.Ok, fair enough. I use 5% in my projections, so 20 years @ 5% is $93k. If one's expenses were under $93k/5 years and one was furthermore set after that 5 years were up... but then again, if you were really that frugal then why weren't you retired already?
You have to look at inflation in the growth value of your investment. 7% RoR is actually 5% in today's dollar's if you are factoring a 2% inflation rate (simple math). Also assume your risk levels should drop as you get older and your RoR will drop accordingly.
it was fantastic, got it started and heated the water while i was changing and loading my gear up.
But good god man, have you felt the acceleration in one of those?! Exhilarating!
Also, I have a friend with the Bolt. I have very much envy. I don't care too much about how the inside feels, other than does it heat and cool quickly when it's cold/hot out. That you can preheat the Bolt while it's plugged into the house is very attractive to me. And that you don't have to wait for the engine to warm up when you get in the car after a ride/ski/the pub for the heat to come on is awesome. Plus guilt free errands!
You're welcome
yes they zoom zoom muy bueno. dave's is "just" the 65kw RWD version, which does 0-60 in "only" 6.2. the torque comes on instantaneously, and of course there's no lag, which is cool as heck.
the really neat thing about hybrids (i have two) is how the electrics can compliment the gas engine. My rav 4 squirts off the line with instant torque, but starts to wheeze out at higher RPMs. The prius just sucks. That's why I really like the infiniti; it seems like they leverage both motors. Until the electric car really starts to become a reality (ie a less ugly bolt or an obtanium model 3) hybrids are fantastic options.
mixed in with eco-warrior guilt...I presume that there's some Catholic somewhere in your past?
Another friend of mine has the Vulvo XC 90 plug-in hybrid. that would probably assuage my guilt too, but it's in Model S territory when it comes to cost.
I agree, hybrids are a good option, especially plug-ins. But there aren't that many on the market (at least in Canaderp), and they don't quite capture my imagination the same way a full electric does...
$100+ to make hot chocolate? Great investment. If you wont use it for anything else, i highly suggest a cheaper stove and pot.
Though if you do get a Jetboil, which are fantastic, get the minimo as its compact and has simmer control. You can always get a bigger pot.
was having a pretty crummy day. then the wife informed me that her payroll kicked back in, and my 401k for work has had a YTD return of 17.58%
they can be found for under $50.
True, just gotta be a savvy shopper. REI Sales are always a great place to start and the 24th is coming up
the zip can be found for this price pretty consistently (this is what i have). its a more barebones version, doesn't have a built in ignition but it does have an adjustable burner.
if i was going to pony up full/high price for this style of stove i'd probably go for the MSR version.
I was just in my boss's office when he lifted a leg and farted.
I did the only reasonable thing I could think of. I declared "rebuttal!" and out farted him. Take that Mark.
I did the only reasonable thing I could think of. I declared "rebuttal!" and out farted him. Take that Mark.
someone provide this man with an increase of reputations.
Thanks Donald.
well DUH. considering this is only year 5 of this particular account it's off to a good start; average annual return is 9.97%. Point of reference i've only been working for a about 10.5 years.