Jr_Bullit said:Hate to say it, but I don't think much of the country is ready for a woman.....at least not in the oval office - and a lot of it not anywhere else either
And how is our oh-so educated and wonderfully diverse US any different?Damn True said:Id have no problem voting for a woman, but NOT THAT ONE. Seriously, if a qualified woman who I felt had the right ideas, conviction, and leadership were to run, Id vote for her.
When Albright was Sec-State the Arab world was for the most part like: "Pffft, whatever biotch. Go bake some cookies."
No, by qualified I mean someone with a background that has actually prepared them for the highest office in the land. Someone who has held executive office on the state level, or held a high ranking office in an office involved in international policy...preferably both but you can't have it all.Jr_Bullit said:And how is our oh-so educated and wonderfully diverse US any different?
And if by qualified you mean some meek, plain, leather faced widow who wears black and worships her deceased husband - sorry - I'll pick the educated woman who loves the fact she is woman - who thinks for herself and needs no man to try shoving his opinions down her throat. Like I said - the US isn't ready for that on the whole. I live in one of the "liberal strongholds"...and while I wouldn't say I'm a liberal - I have to say the respect given to women here is far and above what's found throughout the rest (yes I travel and teach on a regular basis, not to mention I work with school districts around the US 6am to 6pm 5 days a week)
Bush - Gov of Texas (executive office in a very large state 22 electoral votes I think and a very diverse populace)Jr_Bullit said:hrm...and how does all that describe a single one of the men who have held office thus far?
I'd like to hear your milosevic summary - because I gots to help put together some of the US State Dept materials on him for Foreign Service Officers during my stint there and found him to be a rather repulsive individual, as well has his wife, by the end.Toshi said:i would never vote for madeleine albright. i much prefer hrc over her. why? kosovo. my own analysis is that she somehow felt the need to horribly overcompensate for her jewish/holocaust family background (discovered late in life), and painted milosevic as hitler even tho he wasn't, and the u.s./nato action led to quite the mess, and quite the spilling of blood.
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a6eede67d66.htm <-- from harvard international review supposedly, not just some forum post. and no, i don't read free republic, got this via google + following links.
Because right now the conservative religious groups have the power, and most conservative religious do not allow women to take on leadership roles.Jr_Bullit said:I know there was a thread on this earlier, but remind me again - why is it everyone has such a problem with her? She's a strong, independent woman, mother, and wife. If I recall, it had little to do with her politics, and everything to do with her definition as a woman and how she works with her husband.
Gee Thanks Slugman....I never realized I come across as a right wing conservative bush lover...Slugman said:You and N8 are definately of one mind... total. And that is being generous.
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101677
you dont say?Changleen said:I personally feel that Hillary would probably be a pretty good president.
She will ATTEMPT it.Damn True said:....in four years she will be attempting to win the Democratic nomination.
Oops... sorry - I meant to quote DamnTrue.Jr_Bullit said:Gee Thanks Slugman....I never realized I come across as a right wing conservative bush lover...
considering that I'm not any of those things :eviltongu
Slugman said:Oops... sorry - I meant to quote DamnTrue.
I feel for you, man...Damn True said:Apparently nobody is actually READING and they are just making knee-JERK assumptions of what I think.
read what I wrote on the first page of this thread ya goon
why? she's proven to be a bush lapdog. powell is the only one who either had a conscience or spoke up about it during the whole run up to iraq.BurlyShirley said:Id vote for Condoleeza
Agreed. I haven't heard her speak a word that sounded like an original thought....but then it isn't her job to do so.Toshi said:why? she's proven to be a bush lapdog. powell is the only one who either had a conscience or spoke up about it during the whole run up to iraq.
True,Damn True said:Agreed. I haven't heard her speak a word that sounded like an original thought....but then it isn't her job to do so.
Then she's still stuck in the cold war era. Russia is fading fast. Demographics are going to kill them. They happen to be dangerous because they've got so damn many nuclear weapons, but that's about it.BurlyShirley said:True,
You obviously just havent been paying attention then. One of her best thoughts IMO, is that America's greatest rivalry is still with Russia and not with China as most seem to think. She breaks this down in great detail and she's a very sharp woman with alot of ideas. Id recommend looking into it sometime.
I dont have a link. I was reading some stuff on her in a magazine about alot of her views on the world and found them pretty interesting. Dont recall which it was...Toshi said:BS, please provide a link. googling for "condoleeza rice russia china" didn't turn up anything resembling what you write about