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Turbo Monkey
Feb 14, 2002
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After I get my boxxer wc I may have the lightest RL
I would say there wont be any headtube flairing problems on the hm
 

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey
Mar 1, 2002
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no skid marks said:
I'd like to know,the lightest eight possible for RL?
Hitman weight?
Bearing longevity?
Any head tube flairing?
Sorry some of you got so touched by my comments,I didn't name names so Maybee you feel you have polouted this thread with your fan club garbage. Start a fan club thread for trivial chitty chat loosley bassed on BMW.
lower 40's
55ish+
years, depending on care given
No
jacka.ss
 

no skid marks

Monkey
Jan 15, 2006
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ACT Australia
Okay after removing your boots from my arse i'll look for my head up there seeing's that's where you think it's at. Read the whole thread and then judge my statements. Please no more,I'm sorry don't punnish me with my own irony by clogging this thread.:nopity:
 

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy
Apr 23, 2002
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Sand, CA
Bearing longevity...

the longest i've ever known. they'll out live me. you just have to maintain the bike and such, like any other bike. but even if you don't much longer then others.

since theres only 5 hitmans in existance. its a little hard to figure that one out..

lightest, what sorta of riding will you being doing with a light RL?
racing what sort of terrain. if it were the US, and i lived on the west coast it'd be stupid light. but i have to deal with plattekill, here on the east, so i'd rather have the weight of burlier parts.
i've gotten mine down to 44lbs, and i wasn't even trying like terry said. i had no Ti kit.

ask questions, don't add crap at the end of them though. just honest questions works. spelling and such helps. but i don't have much of that either.
 

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Monkey
Jan 15, 2006
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I had my BB7 down to 39lbs and would like to get a RL close to that. I'm thinking 42lbs and still strong for my 65kg.
Do Brooklyn do TI brake arms?If not who does?Are they piss weak?
Any reason you can't run any left hand side BMX cranks with the same Profile spline? Any reason you have to run Profile BB?Is it due to the backwards BB thread on the wrong side? Can only Profile solve this problem?I'm just weighing up the lightest combo possible.Seems to be Eastern Ti cranks and BB at the moment,or Profile TI BB.
 

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy
Apr 23, 2002
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Sand, CA
well just get the Eastern Ti crank arms. light and run the same spindle. its gotta be long spindle too.
the bb is bmw's own eccentric custom made one. so 19mm spindle it is.
i've talked to the eastern guys, i don't know how much i want my cranks to flex on downhill runs...
Ti axle is good enough for me.
why do Ti brake arm, when you can do a carbon brake therapy arm. lighter and can handle flex better.
bmw runs profile, because they've always have. what over 10 years now? don't you think profile is giving them a good deal by now?

fork 2006 boxxer WC
rear shock avy with Ti spring.
Ti bolt kit for everything.
E-13 boxxer stem
Easton DH carbon
foam cheesy grips.. id run lock-ons..
full XO drive train, rear xo short cage
Mag pedals/959s
SDG iBeam post with carbon Seat
Hadley's laced to Mavic 823s Tubeless
Mich or maxxis 2.3 rear 2.5 front regular tires... stans fluid for tubeless
dura-ace cassette

that should get you around 40 for sure.
 

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Monkey
Jan 15, 2006
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I'd be running this kit wich I have so far.
40rc2s
XO rear mech
Welgo MG1 mag pedals
823mavics or 521s(lighter than tubless with DH rear tube).
Hope Bulb front,Hadley rear
DT TI spokes alluminum nipples
Easton Havok stem
I have Salsa flat bars(really light)but don't like the sweep(they're wide enough670mm)
XTR calipers,saint levers(runs are under 3minutes and I'm light)
A2z rotors(lightest I've found)tried Ti but they have the power of a 6" and wear out hell fast.
Ti bolts(got a fair few).
I-beam but not the flimsy seat the next one up.
Minions2.5 front and rear(I use old fronts on rear).Or Michelin tubless on the rear if I go with the 823s
Do they make the Carbon brake rod specifically for the RL or are they a bodge up?
Thanks for your help.
Is the Brooklyn number on thier website correct?
 

tmx

aka chromegoddess
Mar 16, 2003
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Portland
no skid marks said:
...Is the Brooklyn number on thier website correct?
it is the correct number. ask for doc, don't waste your time and dime speaking with anyone else there because no one knows these bikes and the options like he does. email is good too, but you must still indicate that your inquires are directed towared doc if you want sound technical information.

fyi, if you buy a new frame it will void the warranty if you use another brake arm.

brooklyn is super lame for not arranging a ti bar upgrade option. they serve the bike just fine, pretty much everyone i know with a race link wants one, they made a few in the earlier days of the RL so makes no sense why they aren't already an upgrade option. i bang my head against the wall about that one way too often. (and now i'll likely be stoned from my fellow monkeys for having spoken negatively about their beloved bike company.)


edit: grammo/spelling.
 

sikocycles

Turbo Monkey
Feb 14, 2002
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What it will void my warranty. :mumble:
We better get Doc crack-a-lacken on the Ti arms than. He has 94 days until Diablo opens. That should be plenty of time
 

Shortbus

Turbo Monkey
Feb 27, 2002
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Stuck in the 80s
I kinda also always wondered if the RLs can be swapped to run a fixed caliper mount, without the floating brake? Hey it would shave weight. I'd guess Brooklyn would have to machine different caliper mount or perhaps weld a caliper mount fixture like the parks and minis have. Floating brakes never really made such a different with my riding style, but meh what do i know about bikes.
 

xy9ine

Turbo Monkey
Mar 22, 2004
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vancouver eastside
Shortbus said:
I kinda also always wondered if the RLs can be swapped to run a fixed caliper mount, without the floating brake...
yeah, i pondered that as well. there's definately a wide range of opinions on the floater vs non floater debate ie: http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141091&highlight=floater

regarding replacement rods, lots of info in here:

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106324&highlight=brake+therapy+carbon

i assume buildyourown never got around to building those ti brake arms. brake therapy builds trick carbon (or aluminum) arms though.
 

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey
Mar 1, 2002
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Phoenix, Az USA
xy9ine said:
i assume buildyourown never got around to building those ti brake arms. brake therapy builds trick carbon (or aluminum) arms though.
I was going to send mine in or call him with the size needed but never did. Not his fault ...

But i'd hate to spend the time and $ and keep the same home depot hardware.
 

xy9ine

Turbo Monkey
Mar 22, 2004
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vancouver eastside

i did a search for some aluminum rod ends last year; i could only find them in imperial (i would have used them if i had ended up having a custom rod built), but i did recall seeing some nice metric steel ends out there. mcmaster carr has a large selection of rod ends on their site - may be a good place to start. google is your friend.
 

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy
Apr 23, 2002
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Sand, CA
tmx said:
fyi, if you buy a new frame it will void the warranty if you use another brake arm.
i have a warrenty on my frame?
i like all the stock options myself, but say WHAT IF i did go with that Ti brake arm before i dropped my RL off with DOC, what would have been the pricing of a new swing arm and linkage...

and using Ti spokes no matter how little you weigh for a DH bike, is just plain stupid.
sorry.
 

xy9ine

Turbo Monkey
Mar 22, 2004
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DHS said:
and using Ti spokes no matter how little you weigh for a DH bike, is just plain stupid.
sorry.
haha... guilty as charged. though they're not cost effective by any means, i've had really good success with ti spokes on a dh bike. they're stupidly light (and look cool - i've got tie-dye), and i've never had one break. i've actually got a front wheel with ti spokes that are 5 years old (though its been through a couple rims) - they refuse to die, and i don't have the heart to toss them out.

 

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Monkey
Jan 15, 2006
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ACT Australia
Yeah I was just curious about the TI spokes and thought I'd give them a go,not like it'll wreck my day if I popped one,I have spare spokes in my tool box that I take.
 

Sverre

Monkey
Aug 26, 2004
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Norwaii
Those Ti spokes are so cool. Don't think DT makes Ti spokes anymore..?

If I have callculated right, hopefully my RL will be 42lbs when it's done in a few weeks. I'm not using Ti bolts, too excpensive, and too week imo. It's a light but still strong build.
 

MOTODH

Turbo Monkey
Mar 28, 2005
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xy9ine said:
haha... guilty as charged. though they're not cost effective by any means, i've had really good success with ti spokes on a dh bike. they're stupidly light (and look cool - i've got tie-dye), and i've never had one break. i've actually got a front wheel with ti spokes that are 5 years old (though its been through a couple rims) - they refuse to die, and i don't have the heart to toss them out.



got any pics of the wheel built?
 

xy9ine

Turbo Monkey
Mar 22, 2004
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Sverre said:
Those Ti spokes are so cool. Don't think DT makes Ti spokes anymore..?

If I have callculated right, hopefully my RL will be 42lbs when it's done in a few weeks. I'm not using Ti bolts, too excpensive, and too week imo. It's a light but still strong build.
yeah, looks like dt ti spokes are gone. they only came in silver, though - whats the point of paying $3 a spoke if they dont look cool? those purdy ones are made by marwi.

sverre, your rl is going to be super hot. definately my kind of build. have you got the fork yet? still waiting on mine...

i've used ti bolts everywhere for years, and have found them to be completely bomber in nearly every application - the only bolts i've bent were on the linkage of an rm-7 - and those have notoriously high leverage ratios. granted, the weight savings to $$ ratio is kinda stupid.
 

Sverre

Monkey
Aug 26, 2004
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Norwaii
Cheers XY, still waitng for the fork. It's gonna be here first week in March. (Or atleast, so they say.. Hehe).
How strong are those Ti bolts compared to steel? I'm interested, but do not want to sacrafice strength. Do You use'em on the pullrods too Siko?
Got my new fronthub today, Tune King MK, very nice :)
 

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy
Apr 23, 2002
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Sand, CA
how much weight does Ti spokes have over just standard DT champions.
yes i could do a search, but you have some built on the same bike that i own anyway..
 

no skid marks

Monkey
Jan 15, 2006
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ACT Australia
Yeah but that was compared with straight gauge 14 steel.
Use Aluminium nipples and save another oz per wheel. I've used Aluminum nipples for years and never popped one but have had spokes sheer off at the nipple when I've cased a gap or the like and egged a wheel.so they're fine,just gotta be gentle with the spoke key. This is all rotating weight out on the end of the wheel so it does make even more difference.
Do the Eastern Ti cranks only come in 175mm or do they do 170s? Thanks if anyone knows that answer.
 

Flats

Chimp
Jul 30, 2005
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the ROC, NY
well, sorry to jump in on this late, but there is an option for lightweight brake arms...

i have a brake therapy carbon arm right now...but it is two pieces. just waiting on the word to when they can fab a new one for me.
 

tmx

aka chromegoddess
Mar 16, 2003
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nice flats, looks great!!! i still can't believe i like that purple so much.

i think the brake therapy you're talking about has been mentioned earlier.
 

Flats

Chimp
Jul 30, 2005
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the ROC, NY
yeah, i wasn't sure if it was all ready mentioned or not. i can't really give any reviews since it arrived here in two pieces...haha.

i wasn't too crazy about the purple at first, but it is really growing on me.
 

dropthebreak

Chimp
Oct 18, 2004
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xy9ine said:
haha... guilty as charged. though they're not cost effective by any means, i've had really good success with ti spokes on a dh bike. they're stupidly light (and look cool - i've got tie-dye), and i've never had one break. i've actually got a front wheel with ti spokes that are 5 years old (though its been through a couple rims) - they refuse to die, and i don't have the heart to toss them out.

I'll have the ti dye spokes here tomorrow for my hitman wheelset.
 

The Amish

Dumber than N8
Feb 22, 2005
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SO I gots me some new porn to share. Thanks to DHS for takin the time to put it together for me today



Almost together anyways hehehe