Rear dropouts make me wanna say 1992
help e-gurus. What years is this M800?
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my road bike has the same dropouts and is that 91-93 era.
i'm inclined to say 91' (maybe earlier?) it doesn't have a replaceable hanger, and there's no model listed on it (that i can recall) just says c'dale black lightning
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working on it...
It's either 92 or 93, I'm fairly certain. 91 did not have the "force 40" brake bridge. The catalog shows 92 with a non-replaceable dropout and integrated seatclamp, but user photos do not agree.
I KNOW the 93 has the 1 1/4" HT, but I can't say whether the 92 does or not. I'd love to be able to swap a fork if I get it.
I KNOW the 93 has the 1 1/4" HT, but I can't say whether the 92 does or not. I'd love to be able to swap a fork if I get it.
so I take it that's a fatty HT too?
my roadbike is similar, in that the post is way higher than my bars lolthis thing is amazing
Anyone here own this thing?
B1-0301
batch number....hmmmf
batch number....hmmmf
i think I just have to take a look...which is difficult because i'm fricking LAZY
I agree the old Cannondale logo rocked... but I mean the OLD logo...
Looking at some awesome retro cannondales...they should never have changed their logo.
Fill my friday with some awesome retro goodness. DO IT NAO.
I rocked a 1983 Cannondale road frame from about 1985 to 1997 (when it was stolen from my garage in SF). I still have dreams about finding that bike. I used it for general transportation before I could drive, I used it for late night drunken rides during college, and it was even my source of income while I was a bike courier in Boston.
It was white with red lettering/logo... like this one:
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Stucks when a bike like that is stolen. I had a 1994 M900 which I had totally pimped out with all new gear so basically only the original frame was left. It was also stolen. Love the bike and rode the hell out of it too.
Chris VanDine has been running the OG logo for the last 3 years on his TLD stuff.
Pretty rad.
Look a bit closer. There's the 2 bolts sticking out ever so slightly above the axle slot. The shop I worked at in Tacoma was a Cdale dealer, I was there for '92 and '93, and I believe this to be '92.
As long as my memory works, that is......
The only Cannondale I really liked
oh, i was referring to my own frame. sorry for the confusion.
I remember seeing this proto at Interbike. Was ssooooo cool in person. Said it weighed 70lbs. on display, since it was a proto and still solid billet. Wonder what it would've been whittled down to if it went into production???The only Cannondale I really liked
Never could have gone into production. That suspension design would make it unrideable under braking.
I still want to machine a frame like that. Maybe a hardtail would be more practical.
Why? I TOTALLY get the appeal of CNCing something huge and intricate like that. Thing is, that's just not a good way to make a bike frame. I'd want to do something that's actually a reasonable thing to have made, if that makes sense.
Only because I'm a machinist and not a framebuilder. I have four CNC mills in my shop and it's fun to mess around with new parts. I'm pretty sure that an engineer could design a better bike through machining than welding.
Think about it: A welded tube frame is really full of compromises. A frame made from one piece would have material where it is needed and nothing extra. The geometry could be optimized at every section for strength and weight. Also, there would be no weak points from the heat of the welding process.
Nope. Frames use tubes for a reason.
I had one of those back in 1996, fun bike to ride back in the daystill hanging in our shop
Economy
No. You'll never get a machined aluminum frame anywhere near the weight, strength and stiffness of a welded up, tubed frame.
the geometry is actually still pretty good for how old it isI had one of those back in 1996, fun bike to ride back in the day
isnt the weld stronger then the tubes themselves typically? or did i just make that up?
Typically yes, as long as it's a good quality weld, at least that's what I've always heard and taken to be true as well. Combine that with the fact that tubing is much better suited for structural applications than machined parts (much stiffer, laterally and torsionally), and you'll have a much better frame.
On a proper weld joint the bead is the strongest point, the tube is next, and there is a heat-affected zone at the edge between them which is weakest. There are some types of metal which are designed to treat themselves so that the H.A.Z. is stronger than the tube (Reynolds 823, or some such number). Aluminum bikes are not as affected because they receive heat treatment after welding (unless it's a late-model Karpiel). Also, with some of the butting and hydroforming techniques in use, there is a lot more metal at the junctions where it needs to be.
The reason tubes are so hard to beat is the very thin and very consistent wall which is drawn through a die, aligning the grain and making it stiffer and harder than regular stock. A hollow cylinder is the best shape to resist twisting forces with the least amount of metal. As proof of my assertions I put forth the fully-cnc'd trials frame. I can't find pics of it at the moment, but it looked awesome. Turns out it was an unrideable noodle.
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I stand corrected.
But I still want to try it out. Kirkham Motorsport's recent project re-inspired me. It was a CNC machined Cobra replica for Larry Ellison.
http://www.kirkhammotorsports.com/book_aoe/
But I still want to try it out. Kirkham Motorsport's recent project re-inspired me. It was a CNC machined Cobra replica for Larry Ellison.
http://www.kirkhammotorsports.com/book_aoe/
ok, shut up. don't care.
CARBON, IT'S THE WAVE OF THE 90s!!!!!!!!!!11111111111ONE
unf double unf unf
don't worry guys, I'm sure this time everything will go SWIMMINGLY.
CARBON, IT'S THE WAVE OF THE 90s!!!!!!!!!!11111111111ONE
unf double unf unf
don't worry guys, I'm sure this time everything will go SWIMMINGLY.
guess we'll find out
pewpewpew
The main downside to it was the shock. Since it was fixed to the frame it would only last a few rides before it started to leak. The upside was Risse was located about 45 minutes from my house (Before they moved), so I was able to drive over there and they would rebuild it while I waited. That was WAY cool
you monkeys ever pass through nc, check out mombat: http://mombat.org/MOMBAT/
you won't be sorry.
@mickey--was the spooky smorgasbord named for smorgasbord records (old school ct hardcore label?)
you won't be sorry.
@mickey--was the spooky smorgasbord named for smorgasbord records (old school ct hardcore label?)
Did they smoke you up too? I had a Risse custom tool kit. Very cool tool!The main downside to it was the shock. Since it was fixed to the frame it would only last a few rides before it started to leak. The upside was Risse was located about 45 minutes from my house (Before they moved), so I was able to drive over there and they would rebuild it while I waited. That was WAY cool
I would fathom a "yes" to that. After all, many Spooky bikes were named after hardcore bands (Project X, Supertouch). The old spooky catalog came in an EP sleeve and was modeled after the VIOLENT CHILDREN 'United Nutmeg' EP (old school CT hc band whose members went on to be in Youth of Today).
Catalog looked like this:
