This really is the best pro-gun argument out there. Clearly any man who is not into guns lacks masculinity, that can only come from a phallic piece of steel that spews freedom. Pew, pew, pew, skeet, skeet, skeet.
Gun Control
Not this same specious argument yet again. You people really need to think about this a bit more before spouting off. And something tells me that the weapon used has a specific use, and was used outside its intended scope for the murder.
Guns have one and one only purpose - to kill shit.
Long guns for hunting both food and human.
Handguns are only anti-personal weapons - not designed for hunting - try it sometime - you'll starve.
Anything else is secondary, and is just practice for killing.
Let see, if you are pissed at a group of people and want to do them serious bodily harm and you have two implements available, a gun and a tire-iron. Which are you going to choose, the one designed for purpose, or the one that can be re-purposed? Remove the gun from the situation, and what happens? Maybe somebody dies, but 17? Nope, you would be taken out long before you got to 17.
With the argument you make, it is the same as allowing every country / two bit dictator / warlord to have nuclear weapons, hey its not the bomb that kills people, but people. Does that sound sane?
Grow up.
If you know so well how fucked up the mental health care system is and youve been fighting it for 25 years you must be a special kind of stupid to not want more regulations on guns...
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Trump just said he instructed AG Sessions to write a plan to ban bump stocks or 'things that turn legal weapons into machine guns'.
I bet we see no such plan in the next 10 days.
I bet we see no such plan in the next 10 days.
I agree. The point I was making, if you follow the quotes back far enough to see when I got ad-hominem'ed, was that though I too see a fair argument from the right on this issue, was that from the right, there is no middle ground. It's "I've said I'd support, even advocate for, those standards going nation wide."
Quickly becomes
"rally for limitations on what firearms I should be able to own".
AKA, when freedumb® dies.
Speaking quite generally, sometime after Newtown I realized that what the right tends to advocate for, is that a certain kind of gun, will always have value greater than that of any number of children or people. The only other thing I know of that demands this kind of "loyalty" in the face of this kind of horror, as far as I know or can think of, is religion. In the old testament, God demanded of Abraham he sacrifice his son Isaac. At the last second god stops Abraham and says "now I know you fear God". Old testament god was a blood thirsty dick, but even sacrificing ones own children was a step too far. But here, almost every day, we sacrifice children to the Gun God, and instead of being appalled, we're supposed to accept it's inevitability, because we fear the uncaring Gun God. A religious person does not seek middle ground on god. A fanatic, does not give on "principal". Generally, these people are regarded as terrorists. Religion, squares in the mind of the believer, the righteousness of flying airplanes full of fuel and people into skyscrapers.
Or the "right" to own a certain type of weapon whose soul purpose is to spray large amounts of lead, sometimes faster than humanly possible, at other people.
I don't know how to argue with an absolutist. What I have been talking about is the sort of gun reforms that polling shows the vast majority of Americans support, on both sides of the political spectrum. But we cant even get that, because the gun god demands that we fear. To suggest such heresy is to be labeled a loon. I'm not talking about taking away pappy's shotgun. I'm not talking about Obamas Negro Hordes storming the homes of God fearing heterosexuals to take away the deer season bolt action. Hell, used to be that I thought even a buy back/confiscation of legally purchased semi-auto "hunting" rifles was a step too far. But what I'm starting to think, is maybe, like Australia, is we should.
You're right, it was unprofessional, and I regret that.
Edit: and just like last time, some of the fellas in the hangar have been discussing the necessity of running out to buy parts, or whole, ARs "before they are illegal". Yea. Because that's what we should be taking away from the deaths of 17 people, most of whom were kids.
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I say, lets get Louis Farrakhan and/or the Nation of Islam to take up the cause of AR15/"Assault style" gun ownership. That shit would get rounded up so quick that friction from the atmosphere would melt them down.
The resemblance really is uncanny
That is seriously nasty
However... Don't really know how yelling at the Jewish guy will help though.
See what I mean?
Mulford Act, 1967...Mulford Act, 1967...call for Mulford Act of 1967...you have a call waiting on the white RM courtesy phone...
That was about the brown people. Will never work with downtrodden whitey.
Band name material.
Trump's listening session is turning into an endorsement of concealed carry by 20% of teachers in our schools as a solution.
Gay friend of mine posted this on FB. One of his random friends posted this reply.
"bathrooms aren't a constitutional right"
Much butthurt and unfriending followed
will you still buy these bike related brands?
https://www.bikebiz.com/news/anti-gun-bike-brand-boycott
In the wake of the Florida school shooting, US bike advocate Aaron Naparstek is calling for a boycott of Giro, Bell, Camelbak, CoPilot and other bike brands owned by Vista Outdoor, one of America's largest ammunition makers. This $3bn company is also a corporate supporter of the gun lobby’s mouthpiece, the National Rifle Association, he said.
"The same company that manufactures your CoPilot rear-rack child bicycle safety seat also produces the SavageArms MSR 15 Patrol assault rife," tweeted Naparstek last night.
He added: "It's just jarring to me that when I bought @GiroCyclingUK, @BellBikeHelmets, @CamelBak and CoPilot products, I put money in the pockets of a domestic arms dealer."
Vista Outdoor is a holding company that owns gun brands that make ammunition, guns and gun accessories.
Naparstek notes that "One of @VistaOutdoorInc's other brands, @FederalPremium Ammunition, is a major sponsor of [the TV station of the National Rifle Association.]
"Moreover, @VistaOutdoorInc is an avid supporter of the NRA and its company officials sit on the board of the NSSF, the quietly powerful gun industry lobbying group working on things like the loosening of state regulations for concealed carry permits."
A series of tweets posted by Naparstek last night have since been "liked" and retweeted hundreds of times, leading to fears that any consumer boycott could gain traction.
"Boycotting Vista's bicycle brands could really hurt them," claimed Naparstek.
Naparstek is a long-time bicycle advocate, and founder, in 2006, of US transportation news site Streetsblog.
Bell, Giro, and Blackburn were bought for $400m by Vista Outdoor in February 2016.
At the time, Vista Outdoor CEO Mark DeYoung (who was also CEO of Savage Arms) said: "This acquisition is consistent with our strategic growth objective of becoming a world-leading outdoor sports and recreation products company."
He is no longer with the company but, at one time, he was America’s highest-paid gun company executive, earning $13.2 m in 2015, reports Mother Jones.
As reported on BikeBiz in October last year, the current Vista Outdoor CEO is Christopher T. Metz.
https://www.bikebiz.com/news/anti-gun-bike-brand-boycott
In the wake of the Florida school shooting, US bike advocate Aaron Naparstek is calling for a boycott of Giro, Bell, Camelbak, CoPilot and other bike brands owned by Vista Outdoor, one of America's largest ammunition makers. This $3bn company is also a corporate supporter of the gun lobby’s mouthpiece, the National Rifle Association, he said.
"The same company that manufactures your CoPilot rear-rack child bicycle safety seat also produces the SavageArms MSR 15 Patrol assault rife," tweeted Naparstek last night.
He added: "It's just jarring to me that when I bought @GiroCyclingUK, @BellBikeHelmets, @CamelBak and CoPilot products, I put money in the pockets of a domestic arms dealer."
Vista Outdoor is a holding company that owns gun brands that make ammunition, guns and gun accessories.
Naparstek notes that "One of @VistaOutdoorInc's other brands, @FederalPremium Ammunition, is a major sponsor of [the TV station of the National Rifle Association.]
"Moreover, @VistaOutdoorInc is an avid supporter of the NRA and its company officials sit on the board of the NSSF, the quietly powerful gun industry lobbying group working on things like the loosening of state regulations for concealed carry permits."
A series of tweets posted by Naparstek last night have since been "liked" and retweeted hundreds of times, leading to fears that any consumer boycott could gain traction.
"Boycotting Vista's bicycle brands could really hurt them," claimed Naparstek.
Naparstek is a long-time bicycle advocate, and founder, in 2006, of US transportation news site Streetsblog.
Bell, Giro, and Blackburn were bought for $400m by Vista Outdoor in February 2016.
At the time, Vista Outdoor CEO Mark DeYoung (who was also CEO of Savage Arms) said: "This acquisition is consistent with our strategic growth objective of becoming a world-leading outdoor sports and recreation products company."
He is no longer with the company but, at one time, he was America’s highest-paid gun company executive, earning $13.2 m in 2015, reports Mother Jones.
As reported on BikeBiz in October last year, the current Vista Outdoor CEO is Christopher T. Metz.
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If you purchase any product from a manufacturer or retailer any where on planet Earth, you can rest assured that you don't have a clue where your money really goes. If you boycotted all of them, assuming you knew which where connected to the source of Evil (in this case; the NRA), then pretty soon you would be left without resources and subsequently vanquished to Alaskan Homestead realty TV on the Discovery Channel in a futile attempt at being self-sufficient and living off the grid.
It's a slippery slope Eric, very slippery.
But its too soon to politicize the issue...
http://thehill.com/regulation/administration/374981-nra-opposes-new-age-limits-on-gun-purchases
http://thehill.com/regulation/administration/374981-nra-opposes-new-age-limits-on-gun-purchases
Wrote my nastygram yesterday. Confirmed 3 registered adults will be actively working to support his competitor for 2018 and this is just one reason. Also asked for a solid explanation for how he can claim mental health, then cut funding to mental health.
At the very least Marco Rubio's political career (and likely anything downstream too) was ended with that showing. No way in hell the Democrats don't play that over and over again in 2020 or 2022. It also explains why nobody else is even willing to talk to the kids who survived; they're terrified.
yea, credit to Rubio for participating but he knew he was damned if he did/didn't from the first question.
I hope another take-away is that the general public starts to understand more clearly how fucked up the loopholes are in many of the gun control measures. With this, they can argue from a better position for what they're after.
I was surprised that the NRA chick participated at all.
I hope another take-away is that the general public starts to understand more clearly how fucked up the loopholes are in many of the gun control measures. With this, they can argue from a better position for what they're after.
I was surprised that the NRA chick participated at all.
When she tried to pin blame onto the sherrif I think any support she had in the room evaporated.
I just hope the fucking chicken hawk bastard dies a horrible death.
Is it just me or does Ex Sheriff Clarke in uniform look like he should be on stage with the village people?
And why is it that only crazy black men join the GOP..Buhler?
And why is it that only crazy black men join the GOP..Buhler?
Yes, Wayne, we hate you . I hate every fiber of your being. You disgust me to my very core. I wouldnt cross the the street to piss on you if you were on fire, you chickenhawk money grubbing traitorous fuck.
https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/966692353355337730
https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/966692353355337730
Why do so many republicans look like the crypt keeper with a lot of makeup on?