Health Care Reform is Dead
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I am having trouble trying to figure out how it is called Obama-care.
Originally a republican plan.
Overhauled by the democrats to try to fix problems and bring it closer to single payer.
Riddled by compromises by the republicans (mostly to insurance companies) to the point it is less effective than the original plan.
While still better than before, it is hardly a centerpiece.
It just boggles my mind that the hatred for teh black dude is so great that the repubs are ready to throw several million people under the bus just to destroy a plan they basically wrote as a watered down version of a plan they originally put forth.... WTF?
Originally a republican plan.
Overhauled by the democrats to try to fix problems and bring it closer to single payer.
Riddled by compromises by the republicans (mostly to insurance companies) to the point it is less effective than the original plan.
While still better than before, it is hardly a centerpiece.
It just boggles my mind that the hatred for teh black dude is so great that the repubs are ready to throw several million people under the bus just to destroy a plan they basically wrote as a watered down version of a plan they originally put forth.... WTF?
Obamacare was created by the right pretty much as an insult to make sure their own rank and file who may benefit from it would be against it.
Those were the peak days when Obama was being called a gun stealing death paneling Islamic Kenyon communist nazi.
Obama said fuck it and informally owned the name.
LULZ @ every one who voted for trump because of the ACA. Not only are you going to save approximately zero dollars but thier is a fair chance no one will even have a plan to sell you.
Rubes gotta rube.
Rubes gotta rube.
Found out that my health insurance plan costs my company about $550/month. I have no deductible and no monthly out of the pocket contributions, it covers vision and dental. Seems like a pretty good deal, large corporate account must help. I bet it would be even cheaper if there were more people enrolled. Just get everyone in the country on this plan and it would be super cheap!
I am an engineer. Not much for commitees, I'd automate it.
Potential x-post to "death of the republican party" thread.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/19/donald-trump-end-payments-obamacare-subsidies-238616
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/19/donald-trump-end-payments-obamacare-subsidies-238616
crowd fund me because I don't have health insurance..the comments are pure gold
The Los Angeles Times reports that Antonio Foreman, the bodyguard for white nationalist internet personality Tim “@BakedAlaska” Gionet, was stabbed by two men named Edgar Khodzhafaryan, 30, and Arsen Bekverdyan, 31, this past Saturday night after getting into a verbal altercation with them.
Lt. Saul Rodriguez, a Santa Monica police spokesman, tells the Los Angeles Times that his department believes Foreman was stabbed due to the argument he was having with the two men in the parking lot, and not due to racial or political animus.
Despite this, however, Gionet is insisting that Foreman was targeted for being white, and on the crowdfunding page set up to help Foreman pay his medical bills similarly claims that he was “stabbed 9 times for being white in Los Angeles.”
Even though Foreman is a professional bodyguard, he apparently lacks health insurance, which is why his friends are trying to raise $125,000 to pay for his treatment.
In addition to being Gionet’s bodyguard, Foreman is also a member of the Oath Keepers, a right-wing militia group whose founder says that armed vigilantes are needed to defend America from “Marxists” on the streets of American cities.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/bodyguard-for-white-nationalist-stabbed-9-times-after-pro-trump-rally-and-doesnt-have-health-insurance/?comments=disqus
The Los Angeles Times reports that Antonio Foreman, the bodyguard for white nationalist internet personality Tim “@BakedAlaska” Gionet, was stabbed by two men named Edgar Khodzhafaryan, 30, and Arsen Bekverdyan, 31, this past Saturday night after getting into a verbal altercation with them.
Lt. Saul Rodriguez, a Santa Monica police spokesman, tells the Los Angeles Times that his department believes Foreman was stabbed due to the argument he was having with the two men in the parking lot, and not due to racial or political animus.
Despite this, however, Gionet is insisting that Foreman was targeted for being white, and on the crowdfunding page set up to help Foreman pay his medical bills similarly claims that he was “stabbed 9 times for being white in Los Angeles.”
Even though Foreman is a professional bodyguard, he apparently lacks health insurance, which is why his friends are trying to raise $125,000 to pay for his treatment.
In addition to being Gionet’s bodyguard, Foreman is also a member of the Oath Keepers, a right-wing militia group whose founder says that armed vigilantes are needed to defend America from “Marxists” on the streets of American cities.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/bodyguard-for-white-nationalist-stabbed-9-times-after-pro-trump-rally-and-doesnt-have-health-insurance/?comments=disqus
thanks obama?crowd fund me because I don't have health insurance..the comments are pure gold
The Los Angeles Times reports that Antonio Foreman, the bodyguard for white nationalist internet personality Tim “@BakedAlaska” Gionet, was stabbed by two men named Edgar Khodzhafaryan, 30, and Arsen Bekverdyan, 31, this past Saturday night after getting into a verbal altercation with them.
Lt. Saul Rodriguez, a Santa Monica police spokesman, tells the Los Angeles Times that his department believes Foreman was stabbed due to the argument he was having with the two men in the parking lot, and not due to racial or political animus.
Despite this, however, Gionet is insisting that Foreman was targeted for being white, and on the crowdfunding page set up to help Foreman pay his medical bills similarly claims that he was “stabbed 9 times for being white in Los Angeles.”
Even though Foreman is a professional bodyguard, he apparently lacks health insurance, which is why his friends are trying to raise $125,000 to pay for his treatment.
In addition to being Gionet’s bodyguard, Foreman is also a member of the Oath Keepers, a right-wing militia group whose founder says that armed vigilantes are needed to defend America from “Marxists” on the streets of American cities.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/bodyguard-for-white-nationalist-stabbed-9-times-after-pro-trump-rally-and-doesnt-have-health-insurance/?comments=disqus
So basically, pro-choice?
When the boss says to get it done before you leave for vacation...
McConnell delays August recess
http://theweek.com/speedreads/711309/mcconnell-delays-august-recess-healthcare-debate-looms
McConnell delays August recess
http://theweek.com/speedreads/711309/mcconnell-delays-august-recess-healthcare-debate-looms
New healthcare plan appears to be wait until everyone is dead then write a new plan to make everyone great again.
Fucking Congress.
I think it's fantastic that McCain's government covered healthcare issue was probably the final nail in the coffin.
Who would have thought that the republicans were incapable of legislating???
Other than anyone who has a pulse, some common sense and has been half way paying attention for the last decade.
Other than anyone who has a pulse, some common sense and has been half way paying attention for the last decade.
yo
I picked the plan that I could afford. I live in one of the most expensive cities, it seems. I don't even have insurance now because I have to pick between paying rent or having insurance? My car isn't big enough to sleep in so....
Do you qualify for a subsidy?
https://www.wahealthplanfinder.org/_content/Homepage.html
http://washingtonhealthfinder.com/find-financial-subsidy/
https://www.wahbexchange.org/new-customers/financial-help/
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I lol'd at some tv commentator that said "everyone knows the GOP is the pro-life party, they protect the sanctity of life from conception all the way to birth".
Plugged some quick numbers in there. I don't know how it all works but it would seem that it does not take COL into consideration. You pretty much aren't living in Seattle if your income meets subsidy levels, at least not without being in a multi-income household, (roommates or spouse). But that being said, a bare bones plan is pretty much noise compared to rent, depending on age.
Edit: PNJ is an old fucker so that isn't helping him too much.
Ten years ago I looked at becoming self employed. With a pre-existing condition of psoriasis a bare bones plan would have cost me close to $1000/month. Looks like under Obamacare it would be less than a third of that.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-healthcare-idUSKBN1A228B
holy shit. senate repubs consider working with democrats to pass healthcare reform. isn't that...isn't that what they're suposed to do? christ on a bike our gubmint is screwed up.
holy shit. senate repubs consider working with democrats to pass healthcare reform. isn't that...isn't that what they're suposed to do? christ on a bike our gubmint is screwed up.
At this point in my life I have a few pre existing conditions.
From a legal standpoint, would it be possible to drive to Kentucky, beat the shit out of mitch mcconnel, and have it qualify as self-defense?
From a legal standpoint, would it be possible to drive to Kentucky, beat the shit out of mitch mcconnel, and have it qualify as self-defense?
Don't forget to stop at Noah's Ark.
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/344038-gop-senator-forces-dems-to-vote-on-single-payer
Will the gamble pay off? Will a yes vote and the ensuing public branding of "socialist/communist/libcucksnowflake..." overshadow the fact that someone is voting to end the "choice" of crippling personal debt and unnecessary hardship by replacing it with a cheaper, and arguably more effective system?
I'm having a hard time reconciling how people would see single payer as an intrusion on their freedoms when in reality it gives them unlimited freedom to choose.
Will the gamble pay off? Will a yes vote and the ensuing public branding of "socialist/communist/libcucksnowflake..." overshadow the fact that someone is voting to end the "choice" of crippling personal debt and unnecessary hardship by replacing it with a cheaper, and arguably more effective system?
I'm having a hard time reconciling how people would see single payer as an intrusion on their freedoms when in reality it gives them unlimited freedom to choose.
I've got a way to save a bunch of money... ask all citizens over the age of 60 if they support the Republican efforts with regards to health care.
If they say, "yes" the feds cancel both Social Security payments and Medicare/Medicaid benefits for that citizen. So they can walk the walk.
Perhaps at the same time cut off any agricultural-related benefits they might be taking advantage of - all subsidies for crops, public-land grazing, etc.
Hell - let's just poll everyone.
If they say, "yes" the feds cancel both Social Security payments and Medicare/Medicaid benefits for that citizen. So they can walk the walk.
Perhaps at the same time cut off any agricultural-related benefits they might be taking advantage of - all subsidies for crops, public-land grazing, etc.
Hell - let's just poll everyone.
A friend of mine had a right wing-nut father who was all about guns and no government. He refused to accept any Social Security when he retired. When he suffered kidney failure he refused to accept Medicare and quickly died because he couldn't afford his dialysis.
Have to respect the guy for standing up to what he believed. I recommend more people with the same thoughts follow his lead.
I say force it. And when they run into something like kidney failure and they demand to be fixed, we can bring them a pillow. You know, because we care.
That a pillow to cry into or to snuff them out with?I say force it. And when they run into something like kidney failure and they demand to be fixed, we can bring them a pillow. You know, because we care.