Syncros? Who else? I'm currently running MTX's with much success, so that strength or better is cool with me.
Gotta be white...
Gotta be white...
no kidding, why comprimise for looksmaxyedor said:The powdercoat shop is your freind.
That's why I'm asking, I don't know what's "the rim" anymore, it changes every month. I love my MTXs, just didn't know if it's worth the time and money to PC them, plus expose them to the heat, if there was something stronger out there.zedro said:no kidding, why comprimise for looks
Never and I meen never rebuild a rim. The heat isn't the issue, once a rim has been built and ridden it's trash, if you respoke it, it will fail quickly.THRILLSEEKA said:That's why I'm asking, I don't know what's "the rim" anymore, it changes every month. I love my MTXs, just didn't know if it's worth the time and money to PC them, plus expose them to the heat, if there was something stronger out there.
It is technicaly possible to pull it off but you must use the exact same spoke pattern, and get the hub lined up in exactly the same way it was originaly.THRILLSEEKA said:I've def got a good connection, like prob $20 to PC the rims and a few other odds and end profesionaly, but I've NEVER heard you're not supposed to respoke a rim. Is that even true, or just a theory? As much as I research stuff, you'd think I would have heard that atleast ONCE before...
Well, I've never tried to re-use spokes, but I've relaced the same rim 3 times with no issues and I make sure to thoroughly smack them on every lip available! In fact, I'm having the rear relaced again right now for the offest on the Demo. Hell, my bud's redone his cruddy old Trailpimp 3-4 times and bangs out 45'ers with no worries. He's actually bent axles, but no tacos, yet...maxyedor said:It is technicaly possible to pull it off but you must use the exact same spoke pattern, and get the hub lined up in exactly the same way it was originaly.
This isn't scientificly proven, but when I worked at a shop I built 600-700 wheels a year with very few exceptions every rebuilt wheel failed within a month. None of the DH wheels I've built using new rims and new spokes have failed in the first season under normall circumstances. Car crashes and 25 foot drops to flat concrete excepeted.
The risk in $ and skin isn't worth the cost of new rims.
maxyedor said:.....when I worked at a shop I built 600-700 wheels a year ....QUOTE]
Really? That could mean one of the following:
- 1 wheelset every single day at work for a year.
- 12-13 wheels per week for a year.
- 50 - 58 wheels per month for a year.
DirtBag said:1/2 hour per wheel, building them all day for a couple days in a row, The other Mech and I would just get there early and stay late, building bikes and wheels 10-12 hours a day. I worked for a mail-order company, we did tons of high end custom bikes that needed tons of high end custom wheels.maxyedor said:.....when I worked at a shop I built 600-700 wheels a year ....QUOTE]
Really? That could mean one of the following:
- 1 wheelset every single day at work for a year.
- 12-13 wheels per week for a year.
- 50 - 58 wheels per month for a year.
The dark brown frame is slathered in stylish white tribal accents. I already have a full compliment(not everything will be white, just the important parts) of Deity components. Bars, fork lowers, seat is black/white vinyl, and then possibly the rims and pedals. I think that would be enough. Atleast give me the opportunity to make it look like I CHOSE a brown frame...Bicyclist said:Have you bought all other white parts yet? If not, you may want to reconsider and just go black. I think all white would look funny on that frame.
Bikes gotta roll somehow! You just don't build enough of them. It's like when old ladies knit, I can do it almost blinly while watching an adult movie, or talking to customers about their derailer issues and fork oil heights.DirtBag said:Wow. That is a sh!t load of wheels....I get burned out just building one wheelset every 6 months or so!
I've done this on more than a few occasions and I've never had one fail prematurely. While I agree it isn't ideal, it isn't completely out of the question.maxyedor said:Never and I meen never rebuild a rim.
maxyedor said:Never and I meen never rebuild a rim. The heat isn't the issue, once a rim has been built and ridden it's trash, if you respoke it, it will fail quickly.
DirtBag said:maxyedor said:.....when I worked at a shop I built 600-700 wheels a year ....QUOTE]
Really? That could mean one of the following:
- 1 wheelset every single day at work for a year.
- 12-13 wheels per week for a year.
- 50 - 58 wheels per month for a year.
Wheels go together quite fast actually, Lacing isnt the hard part, tensioning and truing is the tough part. Half hour for a wheel if your using precut spokes and have all your measurements ready. Maybe an hour if your cutting spokes and have to measure each time and start from scratch. 600-700 is more like 3-4 wheels in a day, which is Very doable, specially if thats all you were doing. Question is, Is that All he did for where he worked? and which Rim company Did you work fore producing thet many wheelsets???
DirtyMike said:I worked for a mail-order shop, doing tons of custom builds, with afew race teams on the side here and there. Most of the rims I rebuilt were brought to me as a used rim. I don't know how they got to be withouit spokes. I always tried like hell to sell people new rims as they would be happier, and thus my life eiser.DirtBag said:Wheels go together quite fast actually, Lacing isnt the hard part, tensioning and truing is the tough part. Half hour for a wheel if your using precut spokes and have all your measurements ready. Maybe an hour if your cutting spokes and have to measure each time and start from scratch. 600-700 is more like 3-4 wheels in a day, which is Very doable, specially if thats all you were doing. Question is, Is that All he did for where he worked? and which Rim company Did you work fore producing thet many wheelsets???
I also always used pre-cut spokes, mainly DT revos. On the popular rim/hub combos it got to where I didn't even do a spoke calc. Just grabbed spokes and started building. I also would wait untill I had about 8 hours worth of builds lined up. Usualy doing long days of building wheels 2-3 days in a row. At one point we got a 16 year old kid in and taught him how to lace them so I could build the rest of the bike, then spend 10 minutes truing and tensioning slap some tires on and roll.
that sh1ts funnyjimmydean said:You can't run white rims after labor day! What the hell are they teaching kids in school these days?
maxyedor said:Also Doublewides are poopy don't buy them. They build poorly, are way to heavy, and bend springly easily. You alao aren't suposed to run a tire narrower than 2.5" on them. All in all not a great rim.
Yeah, the white syncros will look really pimp on the 06 Demo. I was feeling the same way about the Ano Brown, until it arrived in the mail, and seeing it in person completely changed my mind. Its one of the best colors I have seen on a bike. Its a nice earth color.THRILLSEEKA said:That's why I'm asking, I don't know what's "the rim" anymore, it changes every month. I love my MTXs, just didn't know if it's worth the time and money to PC them, plus expose them to the heat, if there was something stronger out there.
I want white rims as I just picked up an 06 Demo 8...and the only color option is Ano'd fugging BROWN. It'll be sick when I'm done though, all white Deity components, white rims, white 888 lowers.
THRILLSEEKA said:And if all this talk about "one spoke loosened at a time" is true, that would mean that the 3 times my buudy either broke a spoke and lost nipples, that the whole wheel should have been scrapped? Or that every time I get a rim trued, I should actually junk it and start new? I don't think so.
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