Michy 2.8 F&R????
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I like the combi on hard, rocks and dry conditions. I do not like them in the wet !
I have a set of Michelin 2.8 and I rarely use them for anything but muddy conditions. I hate my 2.7 minion sr's and 2.5 comp 24.1's in mud, and the 2.8 michi is better than my mobsters or high rollers in mud IMO. I prefer the 2.7 minion sr's for dry. I think overall the Michelin 2.8's make a good setup for a wide range of conditions, the downside is their weight and rolling resistance. It was also the only tire I flatted with during a race this season, but I think that was a fluke.
Michelin? Are you sure about that?S.G.D said:
no the Comp16 and 24 come in 2.5.
As for the 32's front and back, they feel really balanced, which isnt good if you like kicking the rear end out in tight corners.
As for the 32's front and back, they feel really balanced, which isnt good if you like kicking the rear end out in tight corners.
I don't think a pair of Comp 32 (f&r) will make a good combination.
When I use a Comp 32 in the front I use a 2.5 Comp 24 in the rear.
For all weather conditions Michelin states in there web site a good tire combination is a Comp 16 in the front with a Comp 24 in the rear.
I thing the Comp 16 is the best tire ever made.
When I use a Comp 32 in the front I use a 2.5 Comp 24 in the rear.
For all weather conditions Michelin states in there web site a good tire combination is a Comp 16 in the front with a Comp 24 in the rear.
I thing the Comp 16 is the best tire ever made.
Comp 16s are awesome is a variety of conditions. The 2.2 Comp 16 is the best all around DH/FR tire made, in my opinion.AlberTop said:
Anyways, I have run a Comp 32 2.8 f+r a few times. It worked fine. One great thing about that tire is how much damping it adds to the ride at low pressures because the sidewall isn't incredibly stiff and it has huge air volume. It's also a versatile tread. Better in dry than wet, but not bad when in the mud. The bad, as you would imagine, is rolling resistance. I wouldn't really run that combo anywhere that required pedaling. The ideal condition for that setup would be a steep, dry, really rough course.
I ran Comp32's ft/rr on my DHR and loved it. Only downside was the above-mentioned rolling resistance and tight mud clearance.
If you want a Comp32 tread in a smaller size I recommend the Kenda Nevegal 2.5's. My Nevegals have been a great mini-Comp32 alternative.
Intense makes their 909 in a 2.5, but it's heavier than the 2.8 Michy. The "light" EX version is still about the same weight as the Michy.
If you want a Comp32 tread in a smaller size I recommend the Kenda Nevegal 2.5's. My Nevegals have been a great mini-Comp32 alternative.
Intense makes their 909 in a 2.5, but it's heavier than the 2.8 Michy. The "light" EX version is still about the same weight as the Michy.
Kanter,
As I told you a bit ago (regarding my pending new set of Minions), that may no longer be true, and I may too be in the market for a new setup. I was thinking about a 2.5 Comp 16 in the front, and a Tioga White Tiger 2.5 in the rear. Are you looking for wider tires than that? For winter, I would think that such a setup would be perfect, but that's just me. My current 2.5 mobster F and 2.5 Minion R setup is wearing out, and oh hack it. I'll stop hiding the truth. I'm a tire whore. That is why I want something new. I would run the 2.8 Comp 32 up front with a White Tiger in the rear (2.5) if my fork could fit it, but alas, it cannot. Why do you want a 2.8" Comp 32 in the rear??
As I told you a bit ago (regarding my pending new set of Minions), that may no longer be true, and I may too be in the market for a new setup. I was thinking about a 2.5 Comp 16 in the front, and a Tioga White Tiger 2.5 in the rear. Are you looking for wider tires than that? For winter, I would think that such a setup would be perfect, but that's just me. My current 2.5 mobster F and 2.5 Minion R setup is wearing out, and oh hack it. I'll stop hiding the truth. I'm a tire whore. That is why I want something new. I would run the 2.8 Comp 32 up front with a White Tiger in the rear (2.5) if my fork could fit it, but alas, it cannot. Why do you want a 2.8" Comp 32 in the rear??
I have the 2.5s on my hardtail, front and rear, and they are the worst mud tires (for silty clay loam conditions) that I have ever ridden. When it is hardpack season they work great, but in muddy conditions they just float all over the mud. This means I end up washing on every steep corner.
I just changed over to some Minions on my big bike and they have worked great so far for the muddy conditions. $0.02
I just changed over to some Minions on my big bike and they have worked great so far for the muddy conditions. $0.02
For the last time- Comp 32s are only made in a 2.8. You are probably thinking of 24s.sam_little said:
Yes, - 32s are only 2.8 !!!JRogers said:
just get something elseMikeD said:
I am posting this for a buddy. He cant post from work and him home internet is down right now. He can only observe from work.erikkellison said:
I dont like to run anything over a 2.5. Im a Minion or Highroller fan myself. I just wish they didn't have the orange sripe.
Now if they made a 2.5 version of the comp 32, I would be all over that. I ride too much uphill for 2.8s.
I think this post is funny....we keep talking about a tire that does not exist......and now I might get accused for being negative...but since when did an orange stripe on the tyre become important ?? it is a tire !!
agreed! its all i run now. the 2.8's are just too heavy & baloony (IMO) - they just feel cumbersome. you can buy the 16's cheap as well (most likely due to their un-fashionable skinnyness), last ones i picked up for $20 ea.JRogers said:
true - what works in our wet rocky / rooty / loamy conditions doesnt necesarily rock everywhere else. the 16's arent an optimum hardpack tire. comp 24's though...
And 24s are what I'm on...I just think they're merely passable as a front tire, though. I miss that Comp 32 bite and hold...and their ability to work when it gets damp. (Not often, but it does happen here in the winter...)
MD
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Bulldog, do you use the Nevegal in the front? I'm considering the Nevegal/blue groove combo, but don't know which would be better in which position...Bulldog said:I ran Comp32's ft/rr on my DHR and loved it. Only downside was the above-mentioned rolling resistance and tight mud clearance.
If you want a Comp32 tread in a smaller size I recommend the Kenda Nevegal 2.5's. My Nevegals have been a great mini-Comp32 alternative.
the blue groove is pretty much a front specific tire. the nevegal can be run f&r, but the typical setup is a nevegal rear / bg front. i had this setup for a while (2.5's); impressive tires. worked really well in our wet nw trail conditions as well as hardpack dry (whistler in summer) fast stuff. great bang for the buck.
I thought I heard through the grapevine that Michelin is supposed to make a Comp 32 in a 2.5 for 05.
We have a special upgrade available for people who like Maxxis tires but don't like the orange stripe. We're calling it "Sharpie technology," although Von has been working on this other means to the same end called "Project Krylon, codename Rattlecan."seismic said:
James, while you're here...
Please, please fix the tire section on your site! The Intense tires are all jumbled with the Kenda tires when I look at the page. Can't read either...and you guys have the best info on Kendas I've seen. (and a damned good price on that Thomson X4 I want!)
(looking for some lightish 2.3-2.5s these days...Krispy's review is very helpful, too.)
Unless it's my browser jacking things up...
MD
Edit: Nevermind...looks like it was just Mozilla. IE works fine.
Please, please fix the tire section on your site! The Intense tires are all jumbled with the Kenda tires when I look at the page. Can't read either...and you guys have the best info on Kendas I've seen. (and a damned good price on that Thomson X4 I want!)
(looking for some lightish 2.3-2.5s these days...Krispy's review is very helpful, too.)
Unless it's my browser jacking things up...
MD
Edit: Nevermind...looks like it was just Mozilla. IE works fine.
To follow the slight derailment on Kenda...I've used the nevegal 2.5 front and rear and the nevegal 2.7 rear and blue groove 2.7 font. The nevegal works pretty well for a front but I found that it washed out more than I liked, especially in loose rocky stuff. The nevegal tread pattern seems geared more towards acceleration and braking traction rather than side loading. The 2.7 Blue Groove is awesome up front, sticks to everything and plenty clearance in my 888. The 2.7 Nevegal is crazy fat (and tall profile), for me really too much and too heavy 'cept maybe for the rocks at Northstar. I'm gonna slap a 2.5 nevegal back on the rear and run the 2.5 nevegal rear/2.7 blue groove front combo next, I think that'll be the ticket for me.
Are you trying to be an antagonist?Brian HCM#1 said:
Oh, and for the record, my tire preference is based mostly on the loose, loamy, muddy, slick, wet wood terrain that I ride. That's why I run a Mobster and Minion F & R, and why I want to run a 2.5 Comp 16 F and 2.5 White Tiger R. Only time I ever saw hardpack was at Whistler. I took some pictures even so I could show my friends who had never seen it.
IMO the Nevegal tread is closer to a Comp32 than a Kinetics. I've owned all 3. Between the Kendas I prefer the Nev over the Kinetic. Very slight personal preference advantage though, they are pretty close.MikeD said:Anyone else think the Kenda Kintetic Sticky front tire looks a lot like a Comp 32? Anyone care to comment on how it rides?
I run the comp 32 in 2.8 front and rear. It is the best thing I did for improving my traction in the rear. Braking a little harder with the rear made me more confident on the tight drops. It also improved my braking control because the tire is so predicatable. I do a lot of slow technical riding down steep rocks and slippery wood structures on the Shore. It felt good at whistler, when I got into some of the stunts on clown shoes it realy preformed.
We have alot wet, rocky, steep stuff around here in NY. I need all the traction I can get to keep up with some of the fellow riders. I've found the Mich 2.8 F and Nevegal 2.5 DH R to be the best set up on the DH rig. I absolutely love Mich Comp 16 F+R on my DS type hardtail. If I had to pedal significant distances, I wound run 2.35 Kev Blue Groove F and Nevegal R on the hardtail. I've found the Kev Kendas pinch flat way too much for any DH application....then again, I've never been accused of being the smoothest rider.