Check. I placed the order today. I am sure I can find a rear derailleur, but think I will just go with Force for now. I am not switching calipers or front derailleur for now, so it's quilt time. 
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Hootie hoo!
What bike are they going on?
What bike are they going on?
I'm putting them on my Masi Speciale Carbon.
Rival is being moved to the CX bike and the Campy is being relegated to anyone that wants to buy it.
Rival is being moved to the CX bike and the Campy is being relegated to anyone that wants to buy it.
Nice dude, that'll be a sweet ride.
The Red stuff is really, really nice. The shifters are the big upgrade, well cranks too maybe, and the titanium front derailleur is pretty dope too, and the rear has those cool ceramic pulleys, and the brakes are neat too.
To say nothing of that rear cassette as well.
Yeah - I'll eventually get the group, but don't want to wait to try the shifters. That is the reason for keeping the Rival stoppers and front der and going with Force for the back. I have Truvativ Roleur Carbons, which serve me well for now, but I really like the looks of Red. They are money though.
Red shifters feel god damn badass. I couldn't believe how different they felt compared to my Force shifters. And the trim click...nice.
one downside is that they come with Gore Ride-On cables. well, i guess for some it's a plus. it's better than the teflon coated cables Force comes with, but i'm still not a fan of fancy treated cables.
we just built up a Pinarello something for a customer. with Red group (D/A cassette and chain), and Reynolds Attack wheels, total came out to $10k. customer is buying it for his girlfriend.
one downside is that they come with Gore Ride-On cables. well, i guess for some it's a plus. it's better than the teflon coated cables Force comes with, but i'm still not a fan of fancy treated cables.
we just built up a Pinarello something for a customer. with Red group (D/A cassette and chain), and Reynolds Attack wheels, total came out to $10k. customer is buying it for his girlfriend.
Roughly:
Record Dura Ace Red
Chorus Ultegra Force
Does 105 Rival
Campy even
have something
below Chorus?
I'm not saying that Dura Ace is equal to Record, etc, that's more philosophical, but that's how the groups go, pricewise anyway.
It's a decent group, good for the level it is. It does have the carbon Ultra-Torque crank option though.
It is.
I'll hook a brutha up on some Centaur G levers and derailleurs.
I think it was G that had all alloy.
Yeah, but less than Record.
Wasn't saying that Record/DA/Red were the same pricing, just that they were the 3 high-end groups...
Yeah. I have set some groups up and can't decide which is nicest to me. I think I prefer Record the least. I am sure it's because of being used to Shimano.
I like Force, but man, Dura Ace is just sooooo nice. The Red I got to check out (not ride) on our show bike felt amazing though, so I'm looking forward to riding it for real.
I always thought that Force = DA and Rival = Ultegra as far as performance price point etc. The Red stuff is just insane.
Anyone priced out Record kits lately? YIKES! Looks likes a major chunk more than D-A....which is $200/300 less than Red.
You have to be a real Campy afficianado to buy record these days. but then again I'm no dyed in the wool campy dude either.
You have to be a real Campy afficianado to buy record these days. but then again I'm no dyed in the wool campy dude either.
Anything Italian is stupid right now.
Fortunately for the Campy users, Colorado Cyclist is a bunch of whores and you can buy it somewhat cheaply from them.
Yeah thats what Our reps were telling us too, Feeding to us that its actually a step above DA. I havent had a chance to ride the res yet, but the force was awesome. We have an 08 Madone coming in next week with Red shifters for one of our team riders. Cant wait to build it upi and test ride it, seeing how it my size and everything!!!
The Red stuff seems sweet, but I'm a campy guy.
Never like the ergonomics of shimano/dura ace, and the cable routing is too busy. Works fine, just not for me.
For that matter, all the top-end stuff works at an incredibly high level so to me the differences are subjective.
Never like the ergonomics of shimano/dura ace, and the cable routing is too busy. Works fine, just not for me.
For that matter, all the top-end stuff works at an incredibly high level so to me the differences are subjective.
I think that hits the nail right on the head
I hope to have these shifters in my hands tomorrow.
I got some bag with my shifters. My feet will have to shrink for it to fit my shoes though.
Pics to come.
Pics to come.
Pics coming tomorrow. Inaugural ride to come at 10 am.
Turns out the roadie helps, eh???If you ever ride dirt* again, give me a shout, roadie.
*(cross does not count)
Turns out the roadie helps, eh???
If that's what you want to believe. It's called 'actually riding your bike'.
Loco actually came up and rode some dirt yesterday.
