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Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
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How the fuck is that different than XC? :confused:

WTF is going on with the bike industry?!?

Oh, wait. :D
I don't get it either. Like what does that mean? 50 miles? 100 miles? 150 miles?

And then what is XCO? How does O="not marathon"??
 

Happymtb.fr

Turbo Monkey
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Never had a bike from spesch. Tires, gloves and a helmet did I support them with. And shoes!
 
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Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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race duration.

XCO = xc olympic = target race time of about 90 minutes

XCM = xc marathon = race times above 4 hours
So what about 1.5-4hours?

WHAT IS THE ACRONYM FOR THIS!!! PLEASE HELP!

And what if I'm XC racing and it's not the Olympics, can it still be XCO?
 

6thElement

Schrodinger's Immigrant
Jul 29, 2008
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WHAT IS THE ACRONYM FOR THIS!!! PLEASE HELP!
It means you got lost doing the XCO :p

Let me rephrase, I'm considering what lightweight 120mm forked XC bike I might purchase in order for it to propel me forwards on some long races I'm considering.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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It means you got lost doing the XCO :p

Let me rephrase, I'm considering what lightweight 120mm forked XC bike I might purchase in order for it to propel me forwards on some long races I'm considering.
Ah, ok, a trail bike. Why didn't you say so!?
 

toodles

ridiculously corgi proportioned
Aug 24, 2004
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So what about 1.5-4hours?

WHAT IS THE ACRONYM FOR THIS!!! PLEASE HELP!

And what if I'm XC racing and it's not the Olympics, can it still be XCO?
You forgot XCE!

To be fair, the marathons are a fairly different kettle of fish to the XCOs. They're usually point to point, or massive loops, sometimes multiple days in a row - not just multiple laps of the same short circuit. Without frequent feed zones and stuff you need a bike that is comfortable for longer and can carry more water/snacks.
 

toodles

ridiculously corgi proportioned
Aug 24, 2004
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Back on the Spesh hate train. I'm all for grabbing a pitchfork and getting into an angry mob, but can I still run the new shoes or nah? Cos they're fucken awesome.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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Back on the Spesh hate train. I'm all for grabbing a pitchfork and getting into an angry mob, but can I still run the new shoes or nah? Cos they're fucken awesome.
I've been running specialized shoes for over 15 years, and am on my second pair.
 

Gary

"S" is for "neo-luddite"
Aug 27, 2002
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How the fuck is that different than XC? :confused:
XCO is shorter (2hrs ish) multi lap XC racing to Olympic format (O)
XCM is 60-160km XC racing - ie. marathon length (M)
Here. Previous to Derp long XC races used to be called Endurance mtb or "Enduro" for short.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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You forgot XCE!

To be fair, the marathons are a fairly different kettle of fish to the XCOs. They're usually point to point, or massive loops, sometimes multiple days in a row - not just multiple laps of the same short circuit. Without frequent feed zones and stuff you need a bike that is comfortable for longer and can carry more water/snacks.
Ahh, so an endurance race. Seems like we already had a term for that...
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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XCO is shorter (2hrs ish) multi lap XC racing to Olympic format (O)
XCM is 60-160km XC racing - ie. marathon length (M)
Here. Previous to Derp long XC races used to be called Endurance mtb or "Enduro" for short.
But marathons are 26mi/42Km?
 

Gary

"S" is for "neo-luddite"
Aug 27, 2002
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It's one thing having to turn a blind eye to your lax spelling and pronunciation of our language, but we really shouldn't have to continually explain that many of our words have multiple meanings.
 

mykel

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One pair of gloves in the early/mid 90's before I got learned up.
Occasionally think about the odd non bike bit, cause some accessory stuff looks pretty fine, then I mentally punch myself in the face for even having the thought.