Here in the US, the cost of the plan is independent of the iphone model used.Sorry I don't get you. Is the 99 vs 199$ not influencing the plan you can get? In here it does.
In my experience on AT&T at least.
Here in the US, the cost of the plan is independent of the iphone model used.Sorry I don't get you. Is the 99 vs 199$ not influencing the plan you can get? In here it does.
You're not the one that tries to validate every post with some article.I'm not sure at which one of us you are angry at.
4S has a better camera. It's useful for me. Not it's not for food photos. 4 is good enough for that. Still yeah if it's only 100$ difference than why not go for the 5. Still I'd wait for the new options from the competition.
One more question. Would you get a better plan with other "cheaper" phones (or no phone) or are they just free like the 4? Getting an older phone gives you MUCH better plans here.
The one exception to this is T-Mobile. They have two sets of plans - one group of them is more expensive and gets you a discounted or free phone, the other has less expensive plans, but requires that you already have a phone that has been paid for.You're not the one that tries to validate every post with some article.
For the most part, most similar phones in the US cost basically the same. You can either get an older version phone for free or a new version for $200 give or take. The plans are all the same. I have had my same 'plan' for years now because I am grandfathered in for unlimited data by AT&T. As long as they don't screw me over on that, I probably won't change. As stuff keeps getting faster/bigger, having an unlimited data plan becomes more valuable to me.
Nokia was riding pretty high on a few skus for longer (#1 vendor from 2004-2011) than Apple has existed in the cellular market. Symbian is basically dead now and there is little indication Nokia has stopped their freefall. Similarly RIM dominated corporate hardware, they are nothing now. It happens.you didnt answer my question. again
IOS is running on a handful of skus and sold 400million units. android is running on countless sku's and sold 100million more. big deal
Wow, I found one thing that may be financialy better in Poland. That's surprising. Than yeah I'd pay extra 100$ for a 5. Though I'd still wait for 920 reviews. If the camera is better I'd go for it or wait for HTC conference. Though yeah if you look at it like that it kinda makes sense. The appstore for the iphone is still better than the android store.You're not the one that tries to validate every post with some article.
For the most part, most similar phones in the US cost basically the same. You can either get an older version phone for free or a new version for $200 give or take. The plans are all the same. I have had my same 'plan' for years now because I am grandfathered in for unlimited data by AT&T. As long as they don't screw me over on that, I probably won't change. As stuff keeps getting faster/bigger, having an unlimited data plan becomes more valuable to me.
That's not true. After the 920 premiere their stock went up by a significant margin. At least the stock market has regained some trust in them.Nokia was riding pretty high on a few skus for longer than Apple has existed in the cellular market. Symbian is basically dead and there is little indication Nokia has stopped their freefall. Similarly RIM dominated corporate hardware, they are nothing now. It happens.
If you're curious how it works here. My zip is 92867 if you want to look at the plans. You basically buy a minutes plan, then add a data plan, both based on what you plan on using each month. They charge you if you go over on either. Some other companies have unlimited everything for one price or other promos, but that's the generality of how the big carriers work.Wow, I found one thing that may be financialy better in Poland. That's surprising. Than yeah I'd pay extra 100$ for a 5. Though I'd still wait for 920 reviews. If the camera is better I'd go for it or wait for HTC conference. Though yeah if you look at it like that it kinda makes sense. The appstore for the iphone is still better than the android store.
Modern Windows phones have not been a success so far. Windows Mobile has yet to gain back any significant momentum and they lost quite a bit by abandoning those that bought the last generation. Its doomed barring any huge change. Even I wouldn't hesitate to take a 4S over a 920 - a unique hardware or OS are nothing without good applications, support, large userbase etc:That's not true. After the 920 premiere their stock went up by a significant margin. At least the stock market has regained some trust in them.
IDC is out with figures for worlwide smarphone sales in the second quarter, and it shows Windows Phone still stuck in idle, with only a 3.5% market share of the smartphone market, trailing not just Android and iOS, but Blackberry and Symbian as well. With the new iPhone just announced, the news might not get better for Microsoft.
The IDC report says that 5.4 million Windows Phone devices were sold in the quarter, for a 3.5% market share, up from 2.3% a year previously.
Android, meanwhile had 104.8 million units sold, for a 68.1% market share, up from 46.9% a year previous. There were 26 million iPhones sold, for a 16.9%, down from 18.8% a year previous. 7.4 million Blackberries were sold, for a 4.8% share, down from 11.5% a year earlier. And 6.8 million Symbian devices were sold, for a 4.4% market share, down from 16.9 percent a year previous
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Still, at some point, the market share figures for Windows Phone have to move or the platform will fail. Success can't stay endlessly around the corner. With the upcoming Windows 8 launch, new line of Windows 8 Phones, carrier and manufacturer support, and likely big marketing push, this may well be the last chance for Windows Phone. If all that can't eat into Android and iOS market share, the platform likely will never succeed.
Thanks. With iphone it's hard to compare. In here the iphone plan is 15$ less (comparable plan) but the phone is more expensive (200$ minimum for 4S but it's the old pricing) but without a phone our prices are way better.Though that's new and even 1 year ago our offers were much much worse.If you're curious how it works here. My zip is 92867 if you want to look at the plans. You basically buy a minutes plan, then add a data plan, both based on what you plan on using each month. They charge you if you go over on either. Some other companies have unlimited everything for one price or other promos, but that's the generality of how the big carriers work.
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/plans/individualplans.html
Support comes from the hardware and the numbers will be good enough anyway. Also nerds seem to love WM so I doubt it will be any different with the new one and that's all the userbase you need. Apps are useful but if the hardware is much better I don't need all of them as long as I've got evernote, some sports tracker, flac player and the few big ones plus maybe ms office equivalent.Modern Windows phones have not been a success so far. Windows Mobile has yet to gain back any significant momentum and they lost quite a bit by abandoning those that bought the last generation. Its doomed barring any huge change. Even I would take a 4S over a 920 - a unique hardware or OS are nothing without good applications, support, large userbase etc:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/windows-phone/20982/new-market-share-figures-show-windows-phone-still-cant-gain-traction
That may work for you, but the rest of the population, that they need to win over, wants more.Support comes from the hardware and the numbers will be good enough anyway. Also nerds seem to love WM so I doubt it will be any different with the new one and that's all the userbase you need. Apps are useful but if the hardware is much better I don't need all of them as long as I've got evernote, some sports tracker, flac player and the few big ones plus maybe ms office equivalent.
That and Nokia's investors - its not a charity or even an open source movement (and how many WebOS users are still going strong with that nice but irrelevant OS). Nokia hasn't been shutting down factories for nothing...That may work for you, but the rest of the population, that they need to win over, wants more.
Yeah but lets talk about product not marketability. I know they have the problem with that part but that doesn't kill claims it may be a good phone the same way movies that don't make avatar money can also be goodThat may work for you, but the rest of the population, that they need to win over, wants more.
Why do you talk about web OS? I'm speaking about the current phone.These are commodity products, not art or vintage cars. Nobody cares that WebOS was nice, its now irrelevant even as an open source option endorsed by the current owners (HP).
No. They are not.The Google Apps thing isn't a big deal b/c their mobile web sites are just as easy as using an App.
The A6′s CPU is apparently twice as fast as the A5 — but considering the A5 is two years old, that isn’t saying much. The Snapdragon S4, which is already twice as fast as the A5, has been on the market for a while — and the Cortex-A15 Exynos 5, which should be even faster, is arriving soon.
With this in mind, remember that Apple itself is hyper-aware of the iPhone 5′s technological mediocrity. Apple knows that it no longer competes with other smartphones in terms of screen resolution or processor performance — but it also knows that it still has, undoubtedly, the best industrial design division and supply chain in the market, possibly the world. This is why Apple’s iPhone 5 unveil quickly glossed over its features and focused almost entirely on its immaculately conceived design.
The hardware is playing catch up in the same way that a Porsche Panamera is playing catch up to a Camry... yes the Porsche now has more doors.Don't forget hardware is catchup in several ways though - larger 16:9 screen, modern processor (the Qualcomm S4 released in phones about 4-6 months ago offers similar performance), more competitive camera system, and LTE support (actually in CDMA LTE versions they are still inferior - their special radio design they talked about in the unveil is half-assed - it offers no simultaneous voice and data as even the first CDMA LTE phone on the market had a year and half ago on the HTC Thunderbolt)
Not even close. 4 month old Samsung S3 vs iPhone 5 - Apple is playing catchup:The hardware is playing catch up in the same way that a Porsche Panamera is playing catch up to a Camry... yes the Porsche now has more doors.
Its catchup, Samsung did it quarter sooner at a similar scale with similar technology which is a huge lead for some of the largest electronic devices launches ever. On a more broad scale both the OS as BV mentioned and the hardware is clearly catchup (Samsung was not first I was just using them as an example for a highly comparable level of technology).Just out of curiosity Josh, how close must the product launches be time wise before you'd say that it's not a case of "Playing catchup"?
Install a vanilla ROM then. Just like you have to jailbreak an iPhone to do basic things you should be able to change yourself (like the default browser for example), if you don't like it you still have options. I don't like any third-party add-on UI options either.Yeah but HTC Sense is ****ty and they tend to upgrade you one time too many. Now I need to downgrade or change because the new sense 3.0 is not for single core processors.
I don't suggest apple ios is better. I prefer samsung add on because even if it is sometimes less functional they don't update your phone when it can't handle it. I really need to instal cyanogen. I'm just too lazy to do it.Install a vanilla ROM then. Just like you have to jailbreak an iPhone to do basic things you should be able to change yourself (like the default browser for example), if you don't like it you still have options. I don't like any third-party add-on UI options either.
Good on them.and the workers at Foxcon Apples Mfg. in cChina are just so happy and contented these days
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/23/14049889-report-riots-break-out-at-foxconn-factory-in-china?lite
Only an fanboy would be able to make such a comparison.The hardware is playing catch up in the same way that a Porsche Panamera is playing catch up to a Camry... yes the Porsche now has more doors.
Problem is, most of these features weren't 4 months delayed. They're a year, two years, three years after the market had them. Moreover - and more concerning for people who have followed or like Apple - there is literally nothing innovative about the new phone.Just out of curiosity Josh, how close must the product launches be time wise before you'd say that it's not a case of "Playing catchup"?
To me given the lead time to develop a new highly complex bit of equipment, 4 months is not much at all.
Jobs said large screen phones and 7" tablets wouldn't succeed. Both are popular and Apple is jumping on the bandwagon.So how much of the stagnation is due to Steve Jobs no longer being around?
He wasn't also so fond of tablet idea. He is allowed to change his mindJobs said large screen phones and 7" tablets wouldn't succeed. Both are popular and Apple is jumping on the bandwagon.