They hired Zapata Espinosa, didn't they?
I'd say that tips them to "evil" fairly firmly.
Trek freeride bike....finally!
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I'd say that tips them to "evil" fairly firmly.
Rats. You have me.Originally posted by Silver
They hired Zapata Espinosa, didn't they?
I'd say that tips them to "evil" fairly firmly.
Maybe we should have DW make him some custom Makrolon earplugs with the "Evil" branding on them...??
MD
Hmm, not bad. How about a clear soundproof dome that fit over his head, letting him see out into the world, but preventing him from expressing his thoughts out loud ever again...
His statement was quite OUTLANDish.......Originally posted by dante
uhhhh... you're joking, right??
Who cares if they are a bit late. I think the bike looks really cool, I would ride one. I am glad to see some bigger companies coming out with more affordable freeride bikes. This will add into the bighit, sgs, ac mix, and give poor people like me more options. Cool.
If I recall the Canfield is similar to a Cortina DH-8 (older bike)
WERD. Not everyone has the money to shell out for a top of the line, frame only bike. Adding another bike to the 'value' lineup can only be good.
Wasn't the VRX Trek's first FR bike?
I saw one of those bikes at walmart except it said mongoose on the side, that's wierd?Originally posted by CraigH
Wasn't the VRX Trek's first FR bike?
First one that came to mind was the Yeti Lawill frames.Originally posted by MtnbikeMike
Other than a VPP linkage, name one bike who's linkage is original
You'd think it will be affordable. However, prior to TREK disclosing the MSRP of the deisel, I bet nobody would've guessed the it would retail for the astronimical that it did.
Odds are that this bike will be a higher volume bike than the deisel, so it's more likely that it'll be more affordable than the deisel was.
Oh, theyre much much more :devil:
4-bars and single pivots with lots of holes, then?
Don't get me wrong; I ride a nicolai (HT) myself. Best HT for my purposes that I've ridden. But what other suspension designs do they use?? The "complicated" Nucleon is a single-pivot, even.
MD
no way, trek had a y bike with 5"....y5 maybe? My friend used to own one, claimed it was the "best trek ever" and attempted to pawn it on MTBR for 3300 after it was well used.
That bike sucked. This one reminds me of the deisel, a little late to the game, nothing to get excited about. If it's cheap enough I'll be impressed though.
I have to agree though, I find very few bikes exciting nowadays simply because their suspension designs are so dated. So a stinky linkage works "ok". Why not make something that works better?
Too bad the dw link doesn't come in a 6-7" travel package, at around 9 lbs. I'd buy one...or two. Same thing with the astrix, which I am a big fan of. If it were only a little bit lighter.....sigh.
That bike sucked. This one reminds me of the deisel, a little late to the game, nothing to get excited about. If it's cheap enough I'll be impressed though.
I have to agree though, I find very few bikes exciting nowadays simply because their suspension designs are so dated. So a stinky linkage works "ok". Why not make something that works better?
Too bad the dw link doesn't come in a 6-7" travel package, at around 9 lbs. I'd buy one...or two. Same thing with the astrix, which I am a big fan of. If it were only a little bit lighter.....sigh.
Damn! no one is supposed to logically reply to my post, i was just screwing around
I know theyre all single pivot, linkage driven single pivot, or FSR 4-bar
oops, this must be mtbr...Originally posted by ViolentVolante
Damn! no one is supposed to logically reply to my post, i was just screwing around
I know theyre all single pivot, linkage driven single pivot, or FSR 4-bar
Arg weight whinning. I ride a 32 pound HT for everything. It is the only bike that I own and I just deal with and put 10 pounds more efort when I do XC runs on it.
Personaly I think Treks entry is cool and with it being Trek more people will get interested in freeriding.
Maverick and I-drive are one in the same arent they?...I mean, that must be why Maverick was paying royalty's to GT Bikes...well, until Maverick stopped paying a year or so ago- which resulted in ole mr cochran knocking on their door-scoundrels.Originally posted by dante
Maverick ML7.
GT I-Drive (second version).
Canfield fatty-fat.
DW Link by IH.
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I forgot, this is a Trek posting, so I will turn it back to Trek talk...I checked the bike out at Big Bear-it was pretty cool looking in a "how it was made" aspect-it just looked to me like a replica of the old Turner bike that Tomas Misser rode to World Cup victory in 1996.
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nooooo!!!!....must....rip....on evil....Trek......
Originally posted by zedro
oops, this must be mtbr...
NOT!!, you dont have any authority over me here 
specialized fsr horst link
Replaceable drop-outs can be adjusted to accommodate a 24 wheel or different rear axles (5mm quick release, 10mm through-axle, or Saint). Standard headtube geometry is set at 66.5°, and riders can add about a degree of steepness by moving the drop-outs.
Nice.
Anyone else notice that they've even slapped Bontrager's name on an FR wheelset too?
Nice.
Anyone else notice that they've even slapped Bontrager's name on an FR wheelset too?
I think it's amazing Trek has something heavier duty now. If had a need for a FR bike and if I wasn't in obsolute debt, I'd be looking at Trek. As a company, Trek has kick ass customer service....and all you guys saying it's a copy or ripoff from a Stinky, I dare you to deal with Kona's world class garbage customer service!! Also, Trek tends to go a little overkill when it comes to manufacturing (that's a good thing) which partly explains why the Diesel was so expensive.
As far as this bike having unoriginal suspension, what about all the guys riding Azonic, Iron Horse, Kona, Banshee...etc bikes??
As far as this bike having unoriginal suspension, what about all the guys riding Azonic, Iron Horse, Kona, Banshee...etc bikes??
Ahhhhh...Nicolai frames are soooooo much more!!!
But I do agree with what you're saying about Trek.
Yeah, but he was riding a Turner (the 6 inch Dh version) with Kona stickers on it.
I think the next year, Kona came out with the their first Stab.
Yeah, what Jeremy said...Turner with Kona stickers...they also rode a Turner with Klein stickers at one point as well.
That will happen when trek is involved.
Heh -- "ass pivots".
Not exactly groundbreaking in design, IMHO.
As far as the 1.5 headtubes, frame builders can push the issue by going 1.5, and the fork companies who refuse to get on board will miss out on the OEM.
i think everyone hates trek because the domonate the market...they have the road, the XC and now i think everyone is afraid they will take over the freeride side of things. i think trek does a great job in the business...thats why they dominate....
just because everyone views trek as a big business monster doesnt mean they make crap....it means they're smart on what they design and just ecause they're a few years behind in the FR era doesnt mean the bike is a "one off" form everyone elses rides...its because its what works best. proved last weekend by a racer...look at the reviews the bike got on its first ride...yah the paint can go..but it was a one only bike.
personally i would follow trek. they seem to have a track record for dominating the sport and we still see alot more great things to come from them...
just because everyone views trek as a big business monster doesnt mean they make crap....it means they're smart on what they design and just ecause they're a few years behind in the FR era doesnt mean the bike is a "one off" form everyone elses rides...its because its what works best. proved last weekend by a racer...look at the reviews the bike got on its first ride...yah the paint can go..but it was a one only bike.
personally i would follow trek. they seem to have a track record for dominating the sport and we still see alot more great things to come from them...
uh, they made the Y bike, didn't they?
And the VRX, and the original DH bike of theirs, the fuel, liquid. all crap.Originally posted by Sandwich
uh, they made the Y bike, didn't they?
2inthehole, Wisconson location...... could be a undercover Trek exec
Out with the suit!
I've seen worse than Trek.Originally posted by Zark
And the VRX, and the original DH bike of theirs, the fuel, liquid. all crap.
2inthehole, Wisconson location...... could be a undercover Trek exec
Has everyone forgotten that a 1.5 headtube DOES NOT limit fork choices?! If Trek can make a bike, they surely can make reducing cups. If they don't there are already choices out there anyways. The 1.5 standard may have been pushed first/hardest by a fork maker, but its biggest benefit is for frame builders.
maybe I'm assuming too much, but are you saying a horst link is original nowadays?
it's not
Yeah you sure know alot about bikesOriginally posted by Zark
And the VRX, and the original DH bike of theirs, the fuel, liquid. all crap.
2inthehole, Wisconson location...... could be a undercover Trek exec
except for the VRX these bikes are great for their intended purpose. The fuel is one of the fastest XC bikes you can find. May i also remind people about a bike called the bruiser. Yeah it was a hardtail but it was an DJ/urban(Came out before many companies had DJ/urban bikes, that to me shows interest in this segment of riding). Just because they waited to come out with a production FR rig doesn't mean they should be written off. I'd be on one if my old shop still had trek.
Originally posted by CraigH
First one that came to mind was the Yeti Lawill frames.
well, I don't know when that bike came out, but it wasn't very recently.
it also resembles a schwinn sraight-8, but I forgot when they each came out.....
last I knew, Yeti was coming out with a new DH bike.......maybe because it is a little outdated
point is, that design may have been original when it came out, but no longer is. the first single pivot bike that came out (whatever it was) was original......when it came out
Originally posted by MtnbikeMike
Other than a VPP linkage, name one bike who's linkage is original
Yeti built the Schwinn Straight 8 bikes, which is why they are similar.
That is the newest Yeti DH bike, the DH9.
Original Yeti Lawill design was 97 I think.
By your definition, the VPP isn't original either as Outland built the first one in 1995.
Ref. #1
Ref. #2
1998 Outland VPP
