Fox 2013
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Anyone know where to find the serial number on a Fox Fork? Steerer Tube?
No 20mm on the 34 series forks...
agreed.No 20mm on the 34 series forks...
looks like the igus DU's are confirmed for rear shocks as well.
no inverted 40 no care
The inverted fork they tested had 36mm stanchions.
no inverted 36 no care.
And apparently sucked so bad it didn't make it past a couple runs at the US Open.
I thought their only prototypes were stolen when their truck and trailer were hijacked in Quebec
15mm only on the 34? Guess I'll keep my Revelation.
I was all over this 34 for my transition bandit. Then heard 15mm, stupid.
I agree with you keeping the Revelation, or going to lower a 36 float.
Shame Xfusion won't make a lighter 20mm single crown. They could fill the void in left here.
i too was hoping for a 20mm QR on the 34. the 36 Float is a bit much for what i want now and the 32 150 is a bit too short and flexy for my seize and is too similar in A-T-C to my 36 Talas.
id also like to see the Floats come in black too
id also like to see the Floats come in black too
Naive question perhaps, but couldn't most folks get adaptors for their hubs so a 15 mm axle will work? PITA for sure, and I certainly wish the 34 came with a 20.
I think the 15mm axle has revised spacing specifically to **** over people who already own a quality existing 20mm setup. The 15mm axle is @100mm, rather than 110mm which every other mountain bike has been since the dawn of time (not really). In other words, your 20mil will be too wide, and your 15mil wheel will be too thin to be converted (in some cases) to work on a 20mil.
Seems to me, the industry said **** YOU GUYS to it's customers.
Seems to me, the industry said **** YOU GUYS to it's customers.
I'd gladly trade the 20mm axle on my Float36 for a 15QR system. Either that or a 20mm axle using the same system. Works better/quicker.
Conversion kits for 20mm-->15mm axles are available for DT Swiss, Hope, Industry 9, Hadley, Sun Ringle, Atomlab, Mavic, etc. There are very few exceptions where the hub maker made the hub shell so that it will only work with 110mm spacing.
but youll still have a 15mm axle though.
most modern 20mm hubs can be swapped very easily to accept the 15mm
edit: sniped by dogboy
I think the problem they are getting at is that 15mm is flexy and nowhere near as stable as 20mm. I went witha revelation after owning a 32 with 15mm.
I think half of the problem is the fox/shimano design: Rockshox' u-turn expands so it effectively "clamped" or held in position with the lowers. Fox's qr 15 relies on everything being squeezed together to eliminate flex, which is almost identical to the crappy ass 10mm it replaced. They could probably make their 15mm MUCH better if it was simply a scaled down version of their 20mm system with axle clamps, but I'm sure it wouldn't be as light. I know for me, the flex became annoying, even though it could be pushed hard, it was still too flexy.
I think half of the problem is the fox/shimano design: Rockshox' u-turn expands so it effectively "clamped" or held in position with the lowers. Fox's qr 15 relies on everything being squeezed together to eliminate flex, which is almost identical to the crappy ass 10mm it replaced. They could probably make their 15mm MUCH better if it was simply a scaled down version of their 20mm system with axle clamps, but I'm sure it wouldn't be as light. I know for me, the flex became annoying, even though it could be pushed hard, it was still too flexy.
Edit- does anyone have experience with the 15mm u-turn? Any comparisons with the fox version? These are my thoughts after having 20mm u-turns, 32-15mm, and 36-20mm forks. Blows me a way that their is no way for the lowers and axles to clamp together...
Edit Edit- ok, maybe I have a flawed concept of the axle needing to be clamped- maybe it will offer less flex, but only at the junction of the fork and axle, not necessarily to stop movement between the hub and axle.
Edit Edit- ok, maybe I have a flawed concept of the axle needing to be clamped- maybe it will offer less flex, but only at the junction of the fork and axle, not necessarily to stop movement between the hub and axle.
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Correction: **** you customers, buy all new stuff.
There's a real simple answer to that. Don't buy it - they'll come around. You won't see 15mm around my place anytime soon.
whats the diff?
The way I see it, the real benefit to either system over a traditional QR is that the axle is fully captured by the lowers. On the 36 the axle applies exactly the same clamping forces to the front hub and the axle flaps keep the axle from loosening. On a Maxle system again, the axle clamps the hub precisely the same and the expander (on one end only) locks the axle in place. The 15QR just uses an over center cam to accomplish the same thing.
Separate high and low speed compression adjustments as opposed to just low speed and lockout.
Go look at a Maxle again. It expands on both ends.
That and the lockout on the RLC seemed pretty useless to a lot of people on 160mm fork.
Good point- the more I think about it, the less it seems that the clamping style would make a big difference- maybe it is mostly the difference between 15 and 20mm axle that I could feel.
edit- there is one other example, of my buddy's 2009 55. With marzocchi's old system, if I remember right, it was similiar to the fox 15mm, in that neither side of the axle was clamped or expanding, but it was a 20mm axle. That thing was a really flexy junction. It could, however, be due to the fact that it limited you on how much you could torque the axle...
I am soooo close to pulling the trigger on a 2012 fox 40. So from what I gather from this thread, they are not redesigning it for 2013? I would hate to buy a brand new fork and then have the resale drop in 3-4 months if a new one came out.
non of the articles i've read regarding fox 2013 product says or even hints at anything about a redesign of the 40. nothing inverted, nothing air assisted, etc., but i'm far from in the know on this stuff.
Wasn't it Fox or Marzocchi or both saying f**K you Rock Shox with your maxle patent or something.
Give me bolt up any day. Shove ya maxle, QR 15mm whatever where the sun don't shine. Bolt up 888s, Kowas, 40s style axles are where it's at IMO, no fragile fricken sensitive sh!t for some punter to flog out..
Give me bolt up any day. Shove ya maxle, QR 15mm whatever where the sun don't shine. Bolt up 888s, Kowas, 40s style axles are where it's at IMO, no fragile fricken sensitive sh!t for some punter to flog out..