I like my Osprey Raptor 14 as it can carry plenty of shit for an all day Pisgah epic. And I second the sawyer Squeeze. Way better than hauling 3L of water when it's all around you to begin with.this reminds me i need a new pack for long backcountry rides...the ol m.u.l.e. is on its last legs. lots of peeps are liking ospreys. been looking into em. also digging the idea of a smaller bladder and taking my sawyer squeeze.