I think a lot more thought has been put into the DHR, on both DW's side and Turners side. The Demo and the Turner both have very stiff rear ends and a very low center of gravity so they are pretty equal in that sense. I just think that Dave Weagle has a little more understanding of suspension linkages than anyone else in the industry. Thats just my opinion though. I have yet to ride one. I ride Meastro.
I don't think I'm the only one that thinks this. I feel a good comparison is a company like Avalanche. It's one company perfecting one aspect of a mountain bike. DW is kind of the same thing except he also works with the manufacturers. I would assume less compromises are made during manufacturing/design but that's just a guess.*sigh*
humm Specialized stole and has been working on the fsr/horst link much longer then Dave has been thinking of suspension designs.
if you compare the DW Sunday and Giant Glory (speaking of the pre 2010 version) the Glory felt way better suspension wise......
I'm curious, how exactly did the bikes compare?
Also Dave, why should I switch to tighty whities over boxers and the thongs I already have?
Not correct. Dave Turner himself will even tell you that.
I know, it was my lame attempt as matter-of-fact humor. As you can see I'm not very good at it
hahI could go on and on about the technical attributes that make up the dw-DHR for sure. I have not ridden a 2011 Demo, so despite having my preconceptions, I can't really comment.
huh?I rode a sunday for nearly 3 seasons, my riding budy had an 08 Glory, both on DHX 5.0s and Boxxer WCs, besides Stem und Bars the same components, more or less same weight as well......
Yeah I messed up I meant they got a steal of a deal! HAHAHA
I think you're forgetting that the '11 Demo is first production run of the new design.. I would say that you're running the "First Production" risk on either bike. Turner does have a very good reputation for taking care of their customers, not saying the Big S doesn't.. DT just has a reputation of standing behind his bikes even if they've been altered(I recall reading threads on DT warrantying "drilled" older style DHRs), can't say the same for Specialized in that sense.
Hey thats from the extenze commercial D, whatcha working on now!!I know, it was my lame attempt as matter-of-fact humor. As you can see I'm not very good at it
I could go on and on about the technical attributes that make up the dw-DHR for sure. I have not ridden a 2011 Demo, so despite having my preconceptions, I can't really comment.
Here's what I can tell you about the DHR, as I've got 5 solid days of testing under my belt now. It's a race bike through and through. Sure it's a lot of fun to ride, but it really begs to be ridden hard. If you are the type of rider who will push hard in every corner, ride aggressively, you lean and drift your way down the hill, this bike is probably right up your alley. If you are a sport class rider who goes out to bash with his buddies once a month (maybe), I'm not sure that you will appreciate the bike for what it is. Keep in mind that we've pushed the geometry as slack and low as we could, and because of the dw-link, the reality is that we can go slacker and lower than other designs. This isn't just some BS or spew on a messageboard. It's an application of real science, and I kid you not that I can throw in pedal strokes at will on this bike, despite a 13.4 BB height. Head angle sits at 63ish, which is on the slacker side, but it doesn't rake out under power like some other bikes.
The only way that you are going to know if you like it is if you ride the bike and be honest with yourself about how you are going to use it. This bike has been bred to be a tool for racing and you can feel it in the ride.
Its a natural evolution.Hey thats from the extenze commercial D, whatcha working on now!!
LMAO!!!! rep.
You do know the Dave Turner worked with Horst Leitner on the FSR link at specialized, right? and that turners ran horst links until 2007?
I'm currently riding an FSR suspended bike and have ridden several renditions of the FSR. While you can adjust the way the suspension reacts in certain manners, you still have to stay within it's limits and there is a VERY distinct ride characteristic to the FSR design regardless of the model year.I love it how everyone compares a 2010 or 2011 bike with a competing brand from 2006 and, surprise, finds the new one better.
Not a fan of VPP
novice, get a M10
So you got a hook up with intense now? Cause you only get stuff if you have a hook up.........jkin
BTW, my comment wasn't directed specifically at you although I know it sounded like it.I'm currently riding an FSR suspended bike and have ridden several renditions of the FSR. While you can adjust the way the suspension reacts in certain manners, you still have to stay within it's limits and there is a VERY distinct ride characteristic to the FSR design regardless of the model year.
Do you own one or have you ridden it in it's different variations? If you have, post your thoughts. It's an open forum.
that is the biggest problem, working at a shop that is a dealer for both companies. That is why the decision is difficult.if all things are fairly equal....
i would just pick the one that's the cheapest....more money left over to go towards lift fees.
If that's the case, dw-DHR hands down..
