2012 prototypes: keep 'em coming!
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Donno if it counts since its pretty old news, but its official now:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/monster-energy-debuts-new-specialized-demo-downhill-bikes
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/monster-energy-debuts-new-specialized-demo-downhill-bikes
There is a good shot of the new dual piston brakes on the bike as well. It looks like sram is ditching the CPS hardware.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/photos/monster-energy-debuts-new-specialized-demo-downhill-bikes/212586
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Uprising!
Geometry with 150mm fork ( 520mm AC )
High - HA-67.62 BB- 13.48/342.5mm WB -44.0/1120.0 mm CS - 430mm/16.9" SA 72.8
Low - HA-66.5 BB-13.00/330.0mm WB- 44.25/1124.09mm CS - 433.97mm/17.08" SA 71.76
Shock: 7.875 x 2.25
ISCG05
Integrated headset
142 x 12mm rear axle
5.7lbs - ish w/o shock
Uprising!
Geometry with 150mm fork ( 520mm AC )
High - HA-67.62 BB- 13.48/342.5mm WB -44.0/1120.0 mm CS - 430mm/16.9" SA 72.8
Low - HA-66.5 BB-13.00/330.0mm WB- 44.25/1124.09mm CS - 433.97mm/17.08" SA 71.76
Shock: 7.875 x 2.25
ISCG05
Integrated headset
142 x 12mm rear axle
5.7lbs - ish w/o shock
Do want!
I'll hold off expectation until I see a weight, that thing looks meaty.
Imho that's good. If they make it super durable and reasonable weight it will be a perfect 2nd bike for dh riders. I will even take it into jumps and local bikeparks. If they go the lighter weight more soft core be carefull agressive geo bike I will still need one more bike to fulfill all my riding needs.
In how many multiples of 2-weeks shall we finally see them delivered to customers?
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Uprising!
Geometry with 150mm fork ( 520mm AC )
High - HA-67.62 BB- 13.48/342.5mm WB -44.0/1120.0 mm CS - 430mm/16.9" SA 72.8
Low - HA-66.5 BB-13.00/330.0mm WB- 44.25/1124.09mm CS - 433.97mm/17.08" SA 71.76
Shock: 7.875 x 2.25
ISCG05
Integrated headset
142 x 12mm rear axle
5.7lbs - ish w/o shock
2 weeks then?
(...had to be done)
I'm going with 52.
Evil deliver frames to paying customers? Are you trying to be funny?
nothing super new but here are some prototypes and pre-production bits from PMB : http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/news/article/new-suspension-tech-from-rockshox-and-fox-33468/
full air 40?
needles on the new sram type 2 rear mech
4 piston X0's.
full air 40?
needles on the new sram type 2 rear mech
4 piston X0's.
what seals are those on the boxxers? seems they don't use the crappy sticky stock ones.
EDIT - and the gwin's 40 seems to have skf's new moto seals installed (i believe the compound they are made of is filled with something to make them self-lubricating)
EDIT - and the gwin's 40 seems to have skf's new moto seals installed (i believe the compound they are made of is filled with something to make them self-lubricating)
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There's a dirty joke just waiting to be made
Air 40 has me quite MEH. Fox doesn't do the best job of making smooth air trail forks, so I'd guess that the increased stanchion size of the 40 would lead to some pretty sticky DH forks.
Guess we'll see though....
Guess we'll see though....
I still think air forks (and shocks) are for people who get hot and bothered talking about how much their fork weighs, while coils make for better performance. Or if you are a RS fan its a great way to spend $500 extra dollars to fill your fork up with something free.
You obviously haven't ridden a float, or any of the newer talas's.
I'm sure there are people for whom that is the case, but its not for everybody. I have a boxxer r2c2 and a boxxer WC, and the boxxer wc is on my bike and the r2c2 is in storage. I quite enjoy having a variable spring rate that I can tune for light shuttle days, jump days, heavier DH days, and steeper trail days. Rebuilding, as you well know, takes all of 25 minutes if you're drinking heavily and not paying attention, and so far my wc has needed no more service then my coil. Also, there's no justifying an expensive purchase since I got the WC at the same price I got my team (now r2c2).
I know it lacks a little bit of small bump compliance in theory, but it doesn't seem to translate to a real difference on the trail.
For an RS sponsored rider you sure don't understand the main advantage of an solo air - adjustability.
As William said. Small bump sensitivity is only noticable in the parking lot. Unless you run the fork at minimal damping it's hardly noticable.
Suspension companies should be developing better lubrication systems instead. 5-20 ml of lube oil per leg is a joke.
No matter how many times I try to deny it, somehow I'll always be sponsored by RS.
I'm sure they send you lots of love for all that advertising you did for them on rm. It's like sponsoring but 2.0
In all seriousness: I never seen you deny it.
Actually, I have. Quite a bit at that. 2010 Float RLC. LOTS of time in on that one. And ya know what? It never get anywhere close to as smooth as the X-Fusion forks I've tried, even after breaking in. Theres always that little bit of stickyness right at the start, can't ever seem to get rid of that. Same with every 40 I've tried.
That said I think the Fox beats the X-Fusion dampers by a little bit, and they are lighter I think, so I guess it somewhat evens out...
Congrats on your lifetime sponsorship!
You have now joined Tinker and Ned.
Ha, Fox has said all along that the reason they do not make an air dh fork is because it is not up to their performance standards for DH. I can't see them producing an air dh fork until they have the technology for it to feel right (which could be now for all I know). Because there is really no comparison between a newer 40 and that world cup air fork that is stickier than a Bangladesh Brothel.
My bad. I figured saying that I 'paid full price' in several old threads implied the obvious.I'm sure they send you lots of love for all that advertising you did for them on rm. It's like sponsoring but 2.0
In all seriousness: I never seen you deny it.
Thank you for not saying the new Herbald
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that's why your sponsoring deal is more better
btw. i dont understand the wc hate. my 2010 is smooth.And I didn't even get free stickorz. I don't have a problem with the WC (used the air fork for 3 years), but I still think the coil is a better and most consistent feel. Air has its place in terms of weight and a bit of adjustability (the latter being overstated in my opinion), but if it were a superior spring you'd see it used in other applications for which weight is not as much an issue. Doesn't mean that an air spring is total sh*t either. Having various systems available is great, and I really like how RS makes 2 identical forks with different 'springs.'that's why your sponsoring deal is more better
But I've always gotten a laugh out of how they manage to price the air-spring WC model at something like $500 more than its otherwise identical twin for the past 7 years. While at the same time ('09 i think) Marzocchi had two identical forks, only air version was far less expensive.
*Thread needs moar prototypes
Fify
Though I agree solo air is a bit overpriced but that's normal in any field. 200$ and 500$ headphones sound very much alike if you choose well if you want an example. It only makes sense if you want that extra 10%. If RS had more spring types I think fewer people would need an air fork. I just like to play around with settings so I like my wc but I bought mine used for a great price.
Gamut just showed this prototype at Ice Bike a couple weeks back and it's lookin' pretty dope: http://singletrackworld.com/2012/02/icebike-the-gamut-p30-chain-device/
pretty sure gwin and/or minnaar were running that last year as well.
Fox electronic damper
new Lefty design
new Lefty design
not sure if want. Mixing RS damper tech and cannondale half-bakededness....hmmm.
they are great forks...especially now that theyve done away with the crap Fox dampers, ELO and all the other crap they used to have.
not sure if want. Mixing RS damper tech and cannondale half-bakededness....hmmm.
fify.
The Fox 40 is air assist. Still runs the light coil. To me air is more about tunability.
funny part is, even if you pay full retail for the parts to convert, its still less than $350...
yeah but it doesn't say WC or have the WC rainbow stripes.
And who the hell wants that.