I agree, it doesn't look very "beefy." Although, it does look really fast and light. Peaty has been killing it on that bike...manhattanprjkt83 said:Peatey has been riding one of those for...hahha it looks xcish im sure its fast as hell and light, pure bread racer.
Different leverage ratio? Does the bike have less travel or something?Transcend said:I have 2 224s on the way to me, will be here by the weekend in time for a race. I will give everyone the lowdown on it then. Size small, not that monstrosity in the photos.
According to Peaty, it is "faster then ever". He prefers the geometry to the old one, and the slightly diff leverage ratio. The frame itself weighs almost 1 lb less then the 223. Then take off the floater and save an extra pound.
No idea. If it does, it went up, that's all I know. Haven't actually had my hands on one yet.WheelieMan said:Different leverage ratio? Does the bike have less travel or something?
Nope, it's not. It is the 224 race bike. The DD has a 1.5" head tube. All of the bikes now ship with front derrailleur mounts. our race bikes were the only models last season that didn't have them. The late arrivals all had cable stops.Dan-Rides-Bikes said:its the pivot placement
also the one in the pic is essentially the new 223 DD
Less travel actually seems to be the case, how interesting:WheelieMan said:Different leverage ratio? Does the bike have less travel or something?
no kidding, my 224 will be almost 2 lbs lighter then my 223 due to the design change and the lack of a floating brake setup.CBJ said:Sounds like they are going in the right direction with the 224 and man what a light setup with the 06 BoXXer WC.
Is the 224 going to come standard without a floating a brake? I would be pretty interested to see how you like the 224.Transcend said:no kidding, my 224 will be almost 2 lbs lighter then my 223 due to the design change and the lack of a floating brake setup.
that makes me happy in the pants. i just wish they stopped routing the brake lines through the frame.Transcend said:no kidding, my 224 will be almost 2 lbs lighter then my 223 due to the design change and the lack of a floating brake setup.
Longer stroke shock while maintaining 9 inches of travel wouldn't cause any more clearance issues.Transcend said:the bike already had issues with buzzing the seat, a longer stroke shock would have been a bad idea.
Also, the manitou shocks sound like clogged toilet bowls.
true, i mean it looks awesome and keeps everything out of the way, but i might place some rivets on the tops of the swingarm and use those to attatch my hose for easy removal/installation.CreeP said:it can be a pain in the but but it does have its benefits.
I mean all of our team bikes came with them, and they sounded horrendous - and the new OE ones that they have in stock also sound horrendous. So yes, even those.WheelieMan said:Longer stroke shock while maintaining 9 inches of travel wouldn't cause any more clearance issues.
Oh, you mean the new ones that you haven't ridden do too?! :eviltongu
How come you don't like the cable going through the frame?S.G.D said:that makes me happy in the pants. i just wish they stopped routing the brake lines through the frame.
S.G.D said:its a pain to route, it tweeks the hell out of the hose (could be cured with a 30deg banjo bolt) and it presses the hose against the fine edge of the cut-out in the frame. (can be cured with tape, or by wrapping the hose in any type of tube)
ive never had a real problem becuase of any of that, but peace of mind would only come if they were cured.
it also sucks for removing the brake if you need to. last time i just cut the hose off, and replaced it with a new one.
although technically not as safe from catching rocks and trees, and obviously not as slick looking, i think a hose routed ontop of the swing arm with rivets would prove to be a little more functional. hell, the guys at mojo suspension have done it, and from what i remeber peaty's mechanic has done it to his frame.
but hey, thats just me.
Hasn't come in white for 3 years?Transcend said:The only difference between the DD and regular 223 is the head tube size, yes.
The 223 comes in 3 colors, and hasn't come in white for 3 years now. This year the white has the english sticker kit on it.
It's a friggin bike made in england, if you don't like it, don't buy it. They certainly aren't going to customize it to american tastes, of all things.
hahaha.ender said:
As far as I know, it never actually shipped in white last year to north america. It is shipping in cosmic white this year, which is a high metal flake version, same as the brit model.ender said:
CBJ said:When I ordered my 222 back in 2003 I had the option to get it in any of the colors they painted in that year. I don't know if that is still is an option.
General Lee said:mine's custom :nuts:
heard a rumor it's gonna be painted orange next year too. . . it's been 5 years since the orange bike were actually orange so it'll be cool again. that and our kit clashes terribly with the union jack theme. red, white, blue + orange, grey, black . . . . vomit
i actually saw an orange(the color) patriot in the basement of the shop i work at today. it was cool but i like the grey better. that 224 is looking really nice. if only the us dollar wasnt so weak against the british pound. or it would be nice if i could just ep something from orange.General Lee said:mine's custom :nuts:
heard a rumor it's gonna be painted orange next year too. . . it's been 5 years since the orange bike were actually orange so it'll be cool again. that and our kit clashes terribly with the union jack theme. red, white, blue + orange, grey, black . . . . vomit